Mini Number 2195 | Brutalism | GAME OVER

[Reformed Toxic Player]

i think my reread made me realize there was more towny content and i was just seeing red

[Battle Mage]

my voting has been less jumpy than my normal town play this game I think

what do you mean? so you're actually not playing to your town-meta here?

My town game is much more reactionary and erratic than my scum game. That is why at one point I went 5 games in a row as town being a day 1 lim. Or something along those lines. I ain't fussed about people scumming me so I just do. Hence my vote generally bouncing around.
As scum I'm much more self-conscious of how other people see my posting. Hence putting more effort into them.

I'd argue your play here much more closely resembles your depiction of your scum-meta than your town-meta. One might suggest you put in lots of effort early, until you realised you could get away with less.

But I like that you didn't shy away from speaking to me in real time - scum can be hesitant to do so, especially if they are self-conscious about making errors.

[Elements]

I rlly need to have another completed scum game

[Battle Mage]

there is a distinct lack of progression in RLotus' ISO. Started with townreads on RTP and Duchess...and they remain the top 2 townreads. and has been only really focussed on Italiano since a few days ago.

[Battle Mage]

I rlly need to have another completed scum game

what do you think about RLotus' ISO? do you think his reads evolve naturally? or is he pretty static?

[Elements]

I rlly need to have another completed scum game

what do you think about RLotus' ISO? do you think his reads evolve naturally? or is he pretty static?

I feel like you should've asked me before giving your own opinions

[Battle Mage]

I rlly need to have another completed scum game

what do you think about RLotus' ISO? do you think his reads evolve naturally? or is he pretty static?

I feel like you should've asked me before giving your own opinions

why?

and i'll ask again for your opinion?

[Elements]

I rlly need to have another completed scum game

what do you think about RLotus' ISO? do you think his reads evolve naturally? or is he pretty static?

I feel like you should've asked me before giving your own opinions

why?

so I don't just piggy back of yours

and i'll ask again for your opinion?

I was reading through and I see exactly what you mean. It's very consistent on every read. Even the post I gave town points to as a good take falls nicely into the rest of the reads with italiano and duchess

[VP Baltar]

there is a distinct lack of progression in RLotus' ISO. Started with townreads on RTP and Duchess...and they remain the top 2 townreads. and has been only really focussed on Italiano since a few days ago.

I have been thinking this as well. It is very one dimensional.

[Elements]

I scrolled through RL's iso with his readlist open in another tab, and no expressed read is different before or after said list.

[Battle Mage]

i think it's fairly a-typical of RLotus - in our last game, his reads fluctuated much more as town.

[RLotus]

Yeah I mean my nulls haven’t done anything to warrant movement. Harumi and testa fell off the face of the earth, dunn and elements lurks as usual.

I will say i did waiver on my andre townlean, because reading testarossa town is absurd to me, but I liked his explanation on how he goes about day 1s, felt towny.

And yeah I’m pretty much fixated on Italiano for now

[Battle Mage]

i can confirm testarossa was town though, so that's something

[RLotus]

i can confirm testarossa was town though, so that's something

I don’t think he should have been able to deduce that from her like 3 posts

[Battle Mage]

Re: 451 & 452
Well, you know, it might be better to vote me out then cause it's apparent I'm not gonna be of help to the town. I've been lazy man. All that stuff I do as town, I just didn't/don't feel like doing it this game, especially on Day 1. I don't know why, I just don't. Slots have been pinging me, but I just don't really feel like going in depth with it, hoping that gutreads would be enough. I know that's bad and not helpful, however, information can still be gleaned from my flip.

Another thing is I feel like everything I do and say is getting scumread and everything I answer is not good enough , and it feels like I'm just digging my grave deeper and deeper the more I post and interact. It's part of the game so it's cool, but it's also exhausting. If/when I do get to E1, I definitely won't hammer. I'm not gonna cutoff the discussion like that. And I'm not scum, I'm just bad townie this game.

definitely feel the emotion here. happy to assume Italiano is locktown - I think Italiano-scum has more self-respect than to run this as a gambit.

RLotus - can you explain Italiano posting this as scum?

[Reformed Toxic Player]

i think italiano is v towny here

[RLotus]

Re: 451 & 452
Well, you know, it might be better to vote me out then cause it's apparent I'm not gonna be of help to the town. I've been lazy man. All that stuff I do as town, I just didn't/don't feel like doing it this game, especially on Day 1. I don't know why, I just don't. Slots have been pinging me, but I just don't really feel like going in depth with it, hoping that gutreads would be enough. I know that's bad and not helpful, however, information can still be gleaned from my flip.

Another thing is I feel like everything I do and say is getting scumread and everything I answer is not good enough , and it feels like I'm just digging my grave deeper and deeper the more I post and interact. It's part of the game so it's cool, but it's also exhausting. If/when I do get to E1, I definitely won't hammer. I'm not gonna cutoff the discussion like that. And I'm not scum, I'm just bad townie this game.

definitely feel the emotion here. happy to assume Italiano is locktown - I think Italiano-scum has more self-respect than to run this as a gambit.

RLotus - can you explain Italiano posting this as scum?

It doesn't make a lot of sense for him to do this as town. Like, why doesn't he say yeah you're right about my meta but I'm town. He's trying to explain away why he hasn't been solvy and lacks his usual town fire, while also trying to

survive

with AtE (which I've noticed you tend to be susceptible to). No backbone that I normally see from him when he's town. He's just rolling over and dying.

[Battle Mage]

hmmmmm

[RLotus]

Defeatism isn't towny. Yall are letting him off way too easily. At most that post should be NAI.

[Battle Mage]

i know what you're saying, but when I read it, I see it differently. I just finished a game with Italiano-scum and he is more of a leader than he used to be - I don't think Italiano-scum rolls over quite like that. You're right that I'm great at reading AtE.

my main worry with him is that he's not here. where is he??

[RLotus]

The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.

I think its a fact ur seeing red. Wanna walk through why you scumread them?
Being wrong is also a reason one might have a resisted wagon.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

Do you townread GC btw -rllotus?

[Battle Mage]

The fact that the Italiano wagon hasn't built up despite the fact that it has been talked about ad nauseum might be an indicator that I'm on the right track. Alternatively, it could just be a product of the stalled gamestate.

i mean most of the talk is about how he's town, so would you really expect a wagon to build regardless of his alignment?

[RLotus]

Do you townread GC btw -rllotus?

Slightly for his questioning and gamesolvyness