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with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-02-26 12:00:00).
Last edited by Datisi on Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:54 pm, edited 3 times in total.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- flow trap
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I meant the pairing"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
"I honestly had no idea how to converse with (Flow). (Flow) brought up architecture to start with and I was like "oh do you like architecture" and then he was like "uhm no I know nothing about it." And then he threw something out a window??"- flow trap
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Essay what do you think about Vase?"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
"I honestly had no idea how to converse with (Flow). (Flow) brought up architecture to start with and I was like "oh do you like architecture" and then he was like "uhm no I know nothing about it." And then he threw something out a window??"- KittyTacky
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Yup this is it. Maybe it's a mindset difference but where I come from... Not claiming when pushed by half the town is extremely sus.In post 545, team rocket queen wrote:though maybe kittytacky e-1 is fine if kittytacky is just thinking force claim tos style, hammer or move on- FBJim
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not good enough. nothing in 495 demonstrates intent to force a claim. that post is e-1 with the stated rationale of "somewhat sussing flow trap" but "don't know why and can't really explain why, but it seems very odd"-
but now it's "extremely sus". this is not to mention that you were hesitant to E-2 them earlier. this is also not to mention that their refusal to claim when pushed by half the town (not including your push of their PR earlier) happened *after* your voteKittyTacky wrote:
Yup this is it. Maybe it's a mindset difference but where I come from... Not claiming when pushed by half the town is extremely sus.In post 545, team rocket queen wrote:though maybe kittytacky e-1 is fine if kittytacky is just thinking force claim tos style, hammer or move on- Happy Unbirthday Boon
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You're pointing to 495; 496 was literally "intent for claim" -- kitty is right that not claiming after 496 is extremely sus, particularly in this setup, and no that is not something that would be more sus on other websites, it is extremely sus here on this website and in this queue.In post 496, team rocket queen wrote:i am willing to intent for claim; please no hammer tho- FBJim
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ty tyIn post 635, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:I respect you using animeboy status for your wagon tho
the handwringing is actually why i react so badly to that post. like i said earlier e-1 is aggressive which is fine. what i don't like is the mixture of that and the equivocal language in that post.
like, the first half of 495 even hints that it was a choice between floo and flow trap and he didn't want to OMGUS floo.
if you think i'm overreacting let me know. this is the biggest reason i do not want a FT hammer as it stands (i have another reason, but it is an extremely stupid, gut-based one).- Happy Unbirthday Boon
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Actually I get what you're saying, reading it again. Hmm. Idk. I kinda buy it I guess? Like I think it would be scummier to have that hand-wringing and then not vote, then e1 later. So that it still comes out with a vote despite the concerns feels better to me.
I get that I have been hard pushing flow at this point and not everyone is quite as bloodthirsty as me. And actually I kinda get your concern. If you read it with your concerns in mind, it's reasonable to be worried that kitty is pushing flow as like a scummy l1 on limbait. But I also think it's reasonable for kitty to push flow there as town. Like you're asking 'is there scum motivation in that vote' and the answer is,sure I guess. But I ask 'is there town motivation in that vote' -- and the answer there is also yes. Because, flow being limbait or not, kitty, if town, has to vote the scummiest person in the room.
i actually kinda like this push for you, but, I also feel like (townies) making pushes like this is why flow flailing like they did is scummy because if you are town and kitty is town (as I think he is) then they are positioning you to look like scum trying to save a buddy. That's why, from my point of view, I'd prefer the hammer on flow, and evaluate this argument on day 2 when we have greater knowledge about the game.- Happy Unbirthday Boon
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There was literally no motivation for me to not claim, I was just being irrational"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
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not on the menu for meIn post 627, flow trap wrote:Essay what do you think about Vase?
i’ve changed my mind, floo is probably my other option for today, feels like they’re trying to defend you via attacking others on you, while also denying they’re doing it/explaining things away. that’s the gist i get of their big post. it’s very verbose and explain-y but my eyes glazed over in the sense that the explanations felt like words for the sake of intimidation/information overload.
from what i skimmed of you though i’m not moved. you’re trying to do the things that you think town would do in this position (“town would be more offensive than scum”) so like, you’re self aware of what you’re doing and have been and yet still are like... dunno, how to put this. you’re putting on the act of looking townie and have made it clear to us that you’re cognizant of this + the cues you need to meet and feel a need to verbalize that to us.
this is very much me going “i need to skim quickly at work and then read more when i’m home” too so there might be more depth/changes to this when i’m off later but for now that’s what i’m feeling.warrior cats mafia is now in a queue near you!
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Coolio let's make it a 3 to 2"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
"I honestly had no idea how to converse with (Flow). (Flow) brought up architecture to start with and I was like "oh do you like architecture" and then he was like "uhm no I know nothing about it." And then he threw something out a window??"- flow trap
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It's a subconscious thing I can't control itIn post 641, Ydrasse wrote:from what i skimmed of you though i’m not moved. you’re trying to do the things that you think town would do in this position (“town would be more offensive than scum”) so like, you’re self aware of what you’re doing and have been and yet still are like... dunno, how to put this. you’re putting on the act of looking townie and have made it clear to us that you’re cognizant of this + the cues you need to meet and feel a need to verbalize that to us."I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
"I honestly had no idea how to converse with (Flow). (Flow) brought up architecture to start with and I was like "oh do you like architecture" and then he was like "uhm no I know nothing about it." And then he threw something out a window??"- floo
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274 flow's read list looks genuine enough. There are some reads I disagree with, but that will happen with any other readlist, and there is pushing a square peg into a round hole than I'd expect from a scum readlist. It's the first half of D1. If flow trap does not have two scumreads for that reason, we should not force him into making a bad scumread.
Scumleaning Ydrasse at this point. 348 and 524's "work with us" is glib. I have said before why they basically say "go scumread someone else." Someone who has twice as many posts as me doesn't care about any players except flow trap. She has forgotten kittytacky, a former scumread, and her scumread on me is wholly dependent on the flow trap read. The recent response to me was scummy too, attacking my argument as intimidation or whatever as an excuse not to actually respond to my points.
If you asked me for one reason to townread flow trap it would be the existence of the wagon. Considering the poor arguments to vote flow, some of which border on maliciously fallacious, I don't see an alternative to at least one flow trap voter being scum.
Lastly @KittyTacky what do you think about the relationship of these two posts?In post 33, flow trap wrote:Because I'm a PRIn post 44, flow trap wrote:
Hey mason buddyIn post 43, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:I tend to use a lot of hyperbole and/or "jokeclaim" masons day 1.- flow trap
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Contrary to a Random vote that hasn't been changed, an OMSUS & a vote without an explanation, I would agree/say Kitty's is the most justified hereIn post 634, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:495 is someone voting the person they sus."I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
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In post 644, floo wrote:If you asked me for one reason to townread flow trap it would be the existence of the wagon. Considering the poor arguments to vote flow, some of which border on maliciously fallacious, I don't see an alternative to at least one flow trap voter being scum.
tbh I feel like every wagon I've been on that's ever flipped scum was "all the scummy people voting someone for 'reasons'"
but I actually also kinda disagree, even if the reasons were bad before, there's so much survivalism in the response to pressure that the reasons now seem pretty good to me
like what is "maliciously fallacious" in 'dude didn't claim at f1'?- flow trap
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I didn't claim because I was upsetIn post 646, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:like what is "maliciously fallacious" in 'dude didn't claim at f1'?"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
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Not to mention that happened after and you're not a psychic"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
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