Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[Cabd]

Afternoon Vote Count 1.02

Afternoon 1 will end in (expired on 2021-03-01 23:59:59)

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to Bronze.

Dunnstral (6): Spiffeh, SirCakez, quiet, Battle Mage, MathBlade, Titus
MathBlade (3): Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalBear
Spiffeh (1): Dunnstral

Not voting (7): sangres, Tammy, borkjerfkin, Kitty Trauma Team, mastina, GreyICE, Prism


Mod notes: mastina and MathBlade V/LA until Monday evening
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[MathBlade]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85010

Please look back at this game and stop assuming/poisoning the thread that I am inherently bad.

I caught FL damn early then and then proceeded to catch the rest. But kept having to argue I am decent with you so much I swapped out a scumread at the last minute for you.

with the greatest respect math, that game is literally the last one I'd pick as an illustration of your ability as a player.

Why not? It’s one of the most if not the most recent completed town game. Unless my memory is getting old.

[Bell]

I reread and think the Dunnstrall wagon is now blatantly anti-town.
Get off or claim scum.

[Battle Mage]

dang, i shall be doing neither

[Titus]

i dont trust myself to read you Bell, you always look scummy to me

Sure.

I don't agree that Titus is probably town.

I feel like there are two factions in this game and I'm not sure which one is mixed with scum. But one faction is larger than the other, so I'll just go ahead and say the larger faction has more scum. Rather than factions I'd say there's 2 reads lists being thrown about.

Sure, Math. I agree that based on previous posts you've made, that your town games and scum games are probably similar in wording and sentence structure. Even though I've never played with town you. I don't see much reason for you to lie about that, though I'm sure there are differences.

i think it's too early to even draw that conclusion. feels like lots of quiet players not in either 'faction'. it's possible that all of: math, titus, LLD and Prism are town.

dunno why you don't believe my math-meta?

I like BM legit now.

I am souring on Bell fast.

[Titus]

dang, i shall be doing neither

Do you think Bell could be TMI on Dunn town?

[Spiffeh]

Bell here is proper procedure for dismantling wagons you don't like:

-> Identify player(s) that is scummy on said wagon
-> Explain in charismatic detail why they are scummy, be sure to use buzzwords such as "opportunistic" to help drive the point home
-> Vote for them and urge others to do the same

Saying over and over that's it's a bad/scummy wagon without elaboration will accomplish nothing, and only makes me want to keep my vote here just to spite you for doing so

[Spiffeh]

I like BM legit now.

I am souring on Bell fast.

That's funny I feel the exact opposite on both accounts

[Lady Lambdadelta]

lol Titus scum Math scum

It's so easyyyy

[Spiffeh]

LLD I take it that my absence from that post means you have accepted that I am town?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Bell and BM both town tbh

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD I take it that my absence from that post means you have accepted that I am town?

Only if you bus Math

Choo choo

[MathBlade]

LLD what’s your plan when I flip one of your supposed bosses?

[MathBlade]

Bell and BM both town tbh

I agree with this.

[Titus]

Bell here is proper procedure for dismantling wagons you don't like:

-> Identify player(s) that is scummy on said wagon
-> Explain in charismatic detail why they are scummy, be sure to use buzzwords such as "opportunistic" to help drive the point home
-> Vote for them and urge others to do the same

Saying over and over that's it's a bad/scummy wagon without elaboration will accomplish nothing, and only makes me want to keep my vote here just to spite you for doing so

The pattern you're describing is why Bell is falling in my reads. The only reason I haven't voted him is because this Bell appears to be trying and that's a town Bell indicator. His pushes are vapid, empty and shading.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD what’s your plan when I flip one of your supposed bosses?

NO KINGS. NO RULERS.

NO BLOOD NO BONE NO ASH.

[Bell]

Bell here is proper procedure for dismantling wagons you don't like:

-> Identify player(s) that is scummy on said wagon
-> Explain in charismatic detail why they are scummy, be sure to use buzzwords such as "opportunistic" to help drive the point home
-> Vote for them and urge others to do the same

Saying over and over that's it's a bad/scummy wagon without elaboration will accomplish nothing, and only makes me want to keep my vote here just to spite you for doing so

The pattern you're describing is why Bell is falling in my reads. The only reason I haven't voted him is because this Bell appears to be trying and that's a town Bell indicator. His pushes are vapid, empty and shading.

The only reason you haven't voted me is because voting me would probably get you wagoned.

[borkjerfkin]

I'm operational again

The only thing I have to say about the artifact before I start catching up in earnest:

I am pretty sure Prism started w/ it and this is not the scum artifact
If Prism is in fact Helena, as I surmised when I went to

a

wiki page for the artifact (I ended up on some roleplay site accidentally, and not the official wiki which i didn't realize at the time: https://warehouse14roleplay.fandom.com/ ... an_Trident)

I believe this for a number of reasons but I think one that should be accessible to everyone is that if it's the scum artifact, it'd be pretty coincidental that it popped up N0 and happened to match a claim available to the scumteam rather than what Prism claimed to have happened. This doesn't make Prism town but this is more than likely what happened.

The negative effect of the artifact is basically a non-issue.
I may pass it to someone else anyway. Who knows?

I'm kind of townreading the engagement from Math on it: 226 / 236 seems like Math is excited to potentially catch someone in a lie about it, and the fact that it's not a particularly well thought out idea I don't think should take away from that.

back in a little bit

[Bell]

Anyway, I point my finger and said fire. You guys decided that instead of trying to look in the direction my finger was pointing that it would be a better use of your time to look at who was pointing it. This shows a lack of interest in reading Dunnstrall. Or anyone else really.

Thanks for the guide Spiffeh. I still have the last guide you gave me.

[Titus]

Bell here is proper procedure for dismantling wagons you don't like:

-> Identify player(s) that is scummy on said wagon
-> Explain in charismatic detail why they are scummy, be sure to use buzzwords such as "opportunistic" to help drive the point home
-> Vote for them and urge others to do the same

Saying over and over that's it's a bad/scummy wagon without elaboration will accomplish nothing, and only makes me want to keep my vote here just to spite you for doing so

The pattern you're describing is why Bell is falling in my reads. The only reason I haven't voted him is because this Bell appears to be trying and that's a town Bell indicator. His pushes are vapid, empty and shading.

The only reason you haven't voted me is because voting me would probably get you wagoned.

I don't care if I do get wagoned or not. I care about being correct when I fire. This shit can rapidly devolve into too many chefs in the kitchen. So I'll work with others on my unknowns until I'm ready to call my shot.

But just for good measure.

VOTE: Bell
VOTE: Dunn

Whenever you're ready to put some bite behind your bark, come at me.

[Bell]

Bell here is proper procedure for dismantling wagons you don't like:

-> Identify player(s) that is scummy on said wagon
-> Explain in charismatic detail why they are scummy, be sure to use buzzwords such as "opportunistic" to help drive the point home
-> Vote for them and urge others to do the same

Saying over and over that's it's a bad/scummy wagon without elaboration will accomplish nothing, and only makes me want to keep my vote here just to spite you for doing so

The pattern you're describing is why Bell is falling in my reads. The only reason I haven't voted him is because this Bell appears to be trying and that's a town Bell indicator. His pushes are vapid, empty and shading.

The only reason you haven't voted me is because voting me would probably get you wagoned.

I don't care if I do get wagoned or not. I care about being correct when I fire. This shit can rapidly devolve into too many chefs in the kitchen. So I'll work with others on my unknowns until I'm ready to call my shot.

But just for good measure.

VOTE: Bell
VOTE: Dunn

Whenever you're ready to put some bite behind your bark, come at me.

If you cared about being correct when you fire, you wouldn't be voting Dunnstrall while saying that it was for VCA that you supported it.
You wouldn't have voted at all. You'd have just let it be.

[Prism]

I'm not really feeling up to the task of playing today so I'm going to substitute a brief survey of where I'm at.

I'm calling all of Tammy, BM, sangres, and Bell town in that order.

I townlean Spiffeh/Cakez after that. Finally, Titus is probably my weakest townlean.

LLD is town basically just for the claim. Kitty's posts looked fine but I never really sat and chewed on them.

Having a much harder time with scumreads this game, I've basically refused to think about Math until l get a chance to sit down and read very deeply. Dunn is rough, the softs make me want to say town but are just bizarre. Quiet is lackluster but not hard scum. I want more from players like bork, mastina, GreyICE, and Pooky (Not really a lurker) because I think they're likely scum slots by default.

[Prism]

I missed that bork posted, I'm sorry I'm tired, will update tomorrow

[MathBlade]

I'm not really feeling up to the task of playing today so I'm going to substitute a brief survey of where I'm at.

I'm calling all of Tammy, BM, sangres, and Bell town in that order.

I townlean Spiffeh/Cakez after that. Finally, Titus is probably my weakest townlean.

LLD is town basically just for the claim. Kitty's posts looked fine but I never really sat and chewed on them.

Having a much harder time with scumreads this game, I've basically refused to think about Math until l get a chance to sit down and read very deeply. Dunn is rough, the softs make me want to say town but are just bizarre. Quiet is lackluster but not hard scum. I want more from players like bork, mastina, GreyICE, and Pooky (Not really a lurker) because I think they're likely scum slots by default.

I agree with all that except Sangres and Dunn. Quiet is town too probably.

Anyone voting Bell gets the state of death from me.

And LLD I am one of your royalty if you’re Abigail. Gender may or may not be a bit off but I have a town to raise here so blah.

[Titus]

If you cared about being correct when you fire, you wouldn't be voting Dunnstrall while saying that it was for VCA that you supported it.
You wouldn't have voted at all. You'd have just let it be.

I'm voting without stating Dunn is lockscum. I'd be doing the same if I voted you right now.

If I want to sit alone and tunnel (which is what I meant by fire), then I'll be damn sure I am right.

For now, my vote is best used working with others.