Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

[Morty and Rick]

Sure
VOTE: ItalianoVD

-Morty

[Nancy Drew 39]

Vanillaiser
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Aliases:
Role Remover
Role Blanker
Alignment: any
Role type:
Manipulative
Choice:
Night
A Vanillaiser (or Vanillaizer) is a player who can target another player at night to remove their power, turning them into a Vanilla Townie (or Mafia Goon, etc.) the following night.

Vanillaisers are usually anti-town (most famously Alien in the Great/Greater/Greatest/Cracking Idea Mafia variants), but not always so

[ItalianoVD]

I think Titus pricked slots I don’t have meta on is my current working theory.

Well I’m not one of em. It’s up to you whether you wanna believe that, but I got no reason to lie to you.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Vanilla Cop
Alias:
Neapolitan
Alignment: any
Role type:
Investigative
Choice:
Night
A Vanilla Cop is similar to a Role Cop, in that it is an investigative role that can receive the role name of its target, but not an alignment. The difference between the two is that a Vanilla Cop only receives results in the form of "Vanilla" or "Not Vanilla".

The original Vanilla Cop appeared as a possible role in /in-Vitational Game 4, as the third variant listed below. It did not appear in that game, as the similar Goon Cop was selected instead.

I think both of these could be scum roles because I don’t see either one having benefit to town. I think Noraa probably confused 5uffering’s role with Hectic’s in Pooky vs FL.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I think Titus pricked slots I don’t have meta on is my current working theory.

Well I’m not one of em. It’s up to you whether you wanna believe that, but I got no reason to lie to you.

What are your reads and how did you look at your role pm and not see it as negative utility?

[ItalianoVD]

I have no idea how we prove your innocence

There is no except the way I’ve already told you. I need to flip. Period. You’ll see I’m town and you’ll see how people positioned on me around me etc, and will be able to go from there. I was extremely pissed off before about everything in this game, but I’ve cooled down and don’t actually care anymore. I’m telling you that my flip can give you information that can help you. Perhaps you’ll only trust me in death. Which you will. So why don’t we flip 5uffering and then vig me like you’ve said.

This is the best move Nancy. Think about it.

[Titus]

Is everybody going to replace out when getting voted?

[Morty and Rick]

Man I really wish I got picked for Titus' team

-Morty

[Nancy Drew 39]

I have no idea how we prove your innocence

There is no except the way I’ve already told you. I need to flip. Period. You’ll see I’m town and you’ll see how people positioned on me around me etc, and will be able to go from there. I was extremely pissed off before about everything in this game, but I’ve cooled down and don’t actually care anymore. I’m telling you that my flip can give you information that can help you. Perhaps you’ll only trust me in death. Which you will. So why don’t we flip 5uffering and then vig me like you’ve said.

This is the best move Nancy. Think about it.

Can you give me a readslist?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Man I really wish I got picked for Titus' team

-Morty

I thought you hated playing scum? And trust me in this type of setup, it’s actually less fun because of the way how alignment is determined.

[ItalianoVD]

What are your reads

Townread/Townlean ~ Pyro, Olaf, batsunami, Morty & Rick, Sherlock & Watson,
Null ~ Dunnstral, Gamma, 5uffering, Starcrossed
Suspicious ~ Clidd, Sara, War and Peace
Did I miss anybody?

...and how did you look at your role pm and not see it as negative utility?

I didn’t care. I already said I had no clue what the role even was. All I saw was I win when all threats to town are gone. That’s all I cared about.

[Titus]

I want to be a scum or mason in this setup. I've done everything else. I just hope the days are faster.

[Morty and Rick]

I thought you hated playing scum? And trust me in this type of setup, it’s actually less fun because of the way how alignment is determined.

I do but having adopted the whole Zen approach and depending on the game I'd be fine tbh
I imagine chilling in the scum PT would be fun

-Morty

[Sherlock and Watson]

I thought you hated playing scum?

since when does Morty hate playing scum? I thought he only got bored of it because he rolled it so often. but I thought by baseline he enjoyed it well enough, more than most people anyway

tbh morty is probably one of the players I would have most liked to see as scum stump if I didn't actively think vs. games were a terrible idea at this point

well at least you're having fun in the scum pt, amiright morty?

pedit: god what a ninja, whatever I typed it so I'm posting it

[Morty and Rick]

I think both of these could be scum roles because I don’t see either one having benefit to town. I think Noraa probably confused 5uffering’s role with Hectic’s in Pooky vs FL.

I see where you're coming from--I don't think both are scum. Vanilla cop + Vanillizer doesn't seem like a likely scumteam combo of roles.

I see it as either:
Vanillizer scum, vanilla cop town;
Vanillizer town, vanilla cop scum,
OR:
Both claims town; neither as scum.

I don't think both are scum here so there's a maximum of one scum in that group imo.

[Morty and Rick]

Townread/Townlean ~ Pyro, Olaf, batsunami, Morty & Rick, Sherlock & Watson,
Null ~ Dunnstral, Gamma, 5uffering, Starcrossed
Suspicious ~ Clidd, Sara, War and Peace

Hey Zen bro I'd appreciate it if you can give me a one line explanation for each read!

-Morty

[Sherlock and Watson]

Townread/Townlean ~ Pyro, Olaf,

kinda thinking itali/olaf aren't s/s, just a pet theory I just came up with

[Morty and Rick]

well at least you're having fun in the scum pt, amiright morty?

-Morty

[Sherlock and Watson]

Vanillizer scum, vanilla cop town;

VOTE: Italiano

Rework NAs Nancy and pull the trigger

I think once you see this you don't unsee it

-S

[Dunnstral]

Townread/Townlean ~ Pyro, Olaf,

kinda thinking itali/olaf aren't s/s, just a pet theory I just came up with :P

Also "batsunami" is still on that reads list

[Sherlock and Watson]

scum (compulsive) vanillaizer

basically like a scum framer for a vanilla cop -- someone claims PR, vanilla cop checks them while vanillaizer vanillas them which makes them seem quasi guiltied

it's like literally a scum role in this setup

can also quasi-godfather scum that need to fakeclaim VT

it's literally just trueclaiming scum

like, it would always be strong, but it seems like it was like, specifically designed to abuse vanilla cop in this setup

and it very much fits with alisae's trollface design philosophy that puts in shit like a fucking night skipper

[Morty and Rick]

scum (compulsive) vanillaizer

basically like a scum framer for a vanilla cop -- someone claims PR, vanilla cop checks them while vanillaizer vanillas them which makes them seem quasi guiltied

This is exactly what I thought - but in what world does Titus encourage him to trueclaim it? Unless he just yolo claimed it himself

-Morty

[Sherlock and Watson]

I actually feel good about this, I think Italiano has done a very good job faking a townie tone, but I think this is our hit

we can let 5uffering get replaced I guess, can't believe that's the same slot that had Marci...

actually thinking about the double replace I don't know, but I think off setup spec Italiano looks very likely to be scum

[Nancy Drew 39]

I thought you hated playing scum?

since when does Morty hate playing scum? I thought he only got bored of it because he rolled it so often. but I thought by baseline he enjoyed it well enough, more than most people anyway

tbh morty is probably one of the players I would have most liked to see as scum stump if I didn't actively think vs. games were a terrible idea at this point

well at least you're having fun in the scum pt, amiright morty?

pedit: god what a ninja, whatever I typed it so I'm posting it

As you know, I’m still really hoping for an Auro vs Nancy with you as mod, except I get to be scum stump.

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: Italiano