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I already answered that once I’m caught up I’ll provide an opinion on GC when I have some time to ISO. I don’t see why I need to shift focus just yet.In post 1248, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:can you respond to the lotus + GC question andres.- RLotus
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Ok that's fair enoughIn post 1243, Andresvmb wrote:
Okay but you’re fighting an argument I’m not making. I said those slots were skeptical of Koba. Not that the POE came about because they were voting Koba.In post 1241, RLotus wrote:I'm just saying I don't think the POE had anything to do with the votes on them. Why he changed his read on VPB, I don't know.- ItalianoVD
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lolIn post 1251, Andresvmb wrote:
I already answered that once I’m caught up I’ll provide an opinion on GC when I have some time to ISO. I don’t see why I need to shift focus just yet.In post 1248, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:can you respond to the lotus + GC question andres.- Andresvmb
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How in the world can you post this and not criticize RTP/Koba for it and defend them now? I’m so confused.In post 950, RLotus wrote:This I called him scummy for since he was already settling on a POE when so many alignments are up in the air.- ItalianoVD
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This is what I was referring to when I addressed you in 1188In post 1054, Datisi wrote:i am interested in
@italiano, do you have a read on me here yet? also like, any opinion/change on lotus/rtp?- RLotus
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I didn't have nearly the aggression that game that I do this game, in fact my pushes were very soft, if you want to believe my self meta.In post 1250, Andresvmb wrote:I don’t think RLotus has demonstrated that at all to be totally honest. And what does being new have to do with anything? Some players can play Scum decently well. RLotus did a good job fooling people last game we played. They completely avoided being suspected aggressively and bussed effectively.
And my push on VPB makes no sense as scum. Just tunnel on a highly town read player, when I myself am quite town read. To tank my town cred even though it's unlikely for a VPB wagon to actually go through?- Reformed Toxic Player
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to add on to this ,watching from the gy when u were just playing around as scum u were just straight up trying to stay townread and not offend and went for easy soft readsIn post 1257, RLotus wrote:
I didn't have nearly the aggression that game that I do this game, in fact my pushes were very soft, if you want to believe my self meta.In post 1250, Andresvmb wrote:I don’t think RLotus has demonstrated that at all to be totally honest. And what does being new have to do with anything? Some players can play Scum decently well. RLotus did a good job fooling people last game we played. They completely avoided being suspected aggressively and bussed effectively.
And my push on VPB makes no sense as scum. Just tunnel on a highly town read player, when I myself am quite town read. To tank my town cred even though it's unlikely for a VPB wagon to actually go through?- ItalianoVD
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Sorry if you answered this already, but what did you think of their progression on Baltar from the Baltar/Duchess discussion?In post 1068, Green Crayons wrote:not sure where you get that i'm townreading elements, but i think on balance his play points away from scum- Andresvmb
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You agree that different games call for different approaches yeah? If you played exactly the same as Scum every time, you would make for a really poor Scum player. And from what I can gather, you don’t seem like a bad Mafia player at all to me.In post 1257, RLotus wrote:I didn't have nearly the aggression that game that I do this game, in fact my pushes were very soft, if you want to believe my self meta.- RLotus
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Koba had strong convictions on Elements and GC when he made that POE post, and continued progressing his reads.In post 1255, Andresvmb wrote:
How in the world can you post this and not criticize RTP/Koba for it and defend them now? I’m so confused.In post 950, RLotus wrote:This I called him scummy for since he was already settling on a POE when so many alignments are up in the air.
Italiano had no strong convictions and it appeared like he was just settling for a POE. I believe I even said it's not a scummy thing to do in itself, but in the context Italiano it was scummy.- RLotus
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Like I said if you want to believe my self meta, but I am quite inexperienced as scum to emulate my town gameIn post 1261, Andresvmb wrote:
You agree that different games call for different approaches yeah? If you played exactly the same as Scum every time, you would make for a really poor Scum player. And from what I can gather, you don’t seem like a bad Mafia player at all to me.In post 1257, RLotus wrote:I didn't have nearly the aggression that game that I do this game, in fact my pushes were very soft, if you want to believe my self meta.- ItalianoVD
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I got a soft spot for this, so not the best judge for this.In post 1075, Elements wrote:i've got a plan
let's vote me out to prove all your speculations about me being scum wrong
VOTE: elements- Reformed Toxic Player
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VP + GC is something I considered because of the way GC was trying to cool me off of VP. If VP is town, I think it is highly likely that GC is town.In post 1258, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:vp/GC
Andre I'm having a hard time pinning down a read on. His reasoning is really good and when I argue with him he usually says something that really makes sense. Maybe he can do this as scum. I do think he on the wrong side of town tho. Well I know he is wrong in voting me. Overall, not sure.- ItalianoVD
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Without knowing Elements three tone and wording of this pushes him up slightly back into null.In post 1088, Elements wrote:if there somehow isn't scum in <RTP, GC, VB> mafia are having a field day- Reformed Toxic Player
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the andres part was included bc im very concerned with how much they're tunneled onto you and I and stuff that was ages ago and ignoring our explanations and just brushing it off - it was feeling during our conversation you and i were boxing andres in vibe wise.In post 1267, RLotus wrote:
VP + GC is something I considered because of the way GC was trying to cool me off of VP. If VP is town, I think it is highly likely that GC is town.In post 1258, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:vp/GC
Andre I'm having a hard time pinning down a read on. His reasoning is really good and when I argue with him he usually says something that really makes sense. Maybe he can do this as scum. I do think he on the wrong side of town tho. Well I know he is wrong in voting me. Overall, not sure.
andres is a strong player in general from what I have seen. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go < im looking through this rn to see if the vibes feel right there.- Reformed Toxic Player
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Same kinda. I really hate missing on day 1 mainly because it feels like we will fall too behindIn post 1272, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:u know everytime i roll town i feel this enormous pressure to go 3/3 day 1 and it sucks- Reformed Toxic Player
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haha i regretted that decision at first dont you remember?In post 1271, ItalianoVD wrote:Unless Elements is just scum and RTP is good or bussing their partner again.
but it ended up working only because of the setup itself and how it worked - ya know that.
have you seen the reasoning I presented for why I think elements is town now? i think that they're just wrong town. GC feels more scummy and my theory that they were setting up to go from an elements lim to me feels plausible. - Reformed Toxic Player
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