TM 2021 Large Normal 2: Wikipedia Integer Facts (Over)

[innocentvillager]

except this isnt a dice game where each roll is independent from each other

not saying ur garbage

unless there's strong reason to believe reads are severely positively correlated i don't feel it's that different

imo the onus is on you to prove that if you're going to shade people for not 180'ing their reads when they have some wrong reads

[Hopkirk]

townreading 1 scum is not getting the entire solve wrong and you clearly are saying that
like wtf is the point of these posts if not to throw shade at me? what reaction are you hoping for here?

[innocentvillager]

i think the "their flipped reads were shit so the rest of their reads are shit" and vice-versa argument is used way too often and without good justification

[OkaPoka]

okay

d1

hop says lld wagon core is all gucci

d2

after lld flips town, hop says lld wagon core is all gucci

d3

herc, part of the lld cuties has flipped scum, he says the lld wagon core is all gucci

i mean

is this a realistic thought process from town

double double down

[OkaPoka]

me shading ur reads is one way of me extracting why you keep doubling down

i am not saying ur reads are shit and should be flipped upside down

just wondering, why you doubling down

[innocentvillager]

okay

d1

hop says lld wagon core is all gucci

d2

after lld flips town, hop says lld wagon core is all gucci

d3

herc, part of the lld cuties has flipped scum, he says the lld wagon core is all gucci

i mean

is this a realistic thought process from town

double double down

hm this is interesting and id be curious to hear from Hop

[Hopkirk]

i think the core is good for different reasons
i can be wrong on one, that's a deepwolf
being wrong on one doesn't mitigate the valid reasons for each

what do you mean IV? did i not make it clear why i hold each of these reads? i still like the core, and them being the core isn't why i like them. i've made this very clear. i think the wagon was driven by town because i like the people on it. i don't like the people because they were on the wagon?

[innocentvillager]

that's fair i think

[Hopkirk]

@oka
you're ignoring why i liked the core and reframing it as though i liked them because they were the core
Herc's play was outside of what i thought his range was based on last game
you'll notice 'herc's scumrange' doesn't factor into my read on anyone who isn't hercule

[innocentvillager]

do you think Oka is intentionally framing it in a way to make you look bad or unintentionally so while genuinely trying to figure out your thought process?

the way he worded it just then made it look kind of incongruent for you which is why i was extra curious but then when you said it had nothing to do with them being on the wagon I guess that just... makes sense

[OkaPoka]

just throwing this idea out there

maybe the only people townreading luca by eod2 was scum so scum just cut there losses

because this is asinine

i distinctly remember lld core townreading each other for pushing lld together, but now the argument is they are town independent of lld push?

[OkaPoka]

ill go quote digging later today bye

[innocentvillager]

just throwing this idea out there

maybe the only people townreading luca by eod2 was scum so scum just cut there losses

because this is asinine

i distinctly remember lld core townreading each other for pushing lld together, but now the argument is they are town independent of lld push?

last line now it makes sense why you framed it that way i guess

and what's asinine?

[Hopkirk]

that was never the argument and i dislike that you're framing it that way

[Hopkirk]

@oka ^

[Titus]

@oka, I'm thinking scum saw Bell v Luca and decided dead goon over dead PR. Not sure there though.

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: winter flakes
this guy is wooden as fuck

VOTE: luca
the spirit of dann flows through me

the one and only time wf mentioned luca on d2 was in the vote he cast.
no pushing of luca, at any point, just voting.
sheeping the the dead is one thing, but there are literally no opinions of his own to go with it.

todays play:

ceph is probably good boi based on putting herc to 7 in the early game in my mind

winter flakes (alt of uncrowned) has spoken

there's probably more shit to look at there but i'm in zoom class smh

as i see it, this is wf only original content today, and its weak.

i like titus for bringing up hop as FoS

i liked Hop early game but been feeling progressively worse as game has gone on and i had a similar thought based on early wagon positioning

sheeping titus

because given the confidence lld had on scum!mastina and these reads and the hard defense of herc which kinda looks like a chainsaw now i think voting there is a good play

sheeping dead again, this time with a reason that was discussed earlier by iv:

probably scum in Hopkirk/xtoxm/mastina bc innocentvillager isn’t scum

i'll be more interested on the first point if you can find an issue to take with how they interacted around the wagon/their votes specifically

but that was my "first point" lol, the people who jumped onto LLD after hercule got flashwagoned is a little suspicious, which implicates {Hopkirk/xtoxm/mastina/innocentvillager}

you don't think out of hercule's 3 buddies, at least one of them would help try to chainsaw LLD?

his other posts today are basically fluff.

- very little original content
- no depth to the opinions he does provide
- voted luca but otherwise never pushed or mentioned him at all
- showed lack of care about result at eod1, scum indicative due to the wagons being tvt (looking back this was also true of luca to a large degree)
- been coasting just about all game
- play contrasts with v1 where he actually did things

[Cephrir]

ye.

[Hopkirk]

i like titus for bringing up hop as FoS

i liked Hop early game but been feeling progressively worse as game has gone on and i had a similar thought based on early wagon positioning

saw this from the quotes above. why didn't you mention me when you thought i got worse? you said your team liked me and you didn't really have thoughts then seem to be disliking me now that other people are...

[Hopkirk]

i'm... not going to get around to this today. i'm uh... organizing another dnd game.

[jjh927]

VOTE: Winter Flakes

Seems like a good idea

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: Winter Flakes

Seems like a good idea

first: i appreciate the vote
second: you're only clearing the bar set by wf cus he's seriously underwhelming, and because you took a hard stance on d1 but you're more than capable of navigating tvt wagons as scum, please do more

[AGar]

Hopkirk is still scum, y'all

Bullet points from 2340

• Specifically throwing RC's name out
  at LLD
  , knowing that it could derail the attention of a strong scumhunter, under the guise of a joke is scummy as shit. This was a couple hundred posts and 24+ hours after the initial comment by LLD. Why bring it up other than to throw kerosene on a fire and see if you can derail it? (1142)
  
• Persistent using one word then when called, trying to backtrack and saying he used that word but meant a different thing. This isn't just a mistake one time and going "ah right, I misused that," it's a consistent pattern of trying to weasel out of being held accountable. ([A] 2079 initial + 2089 backtrack.
  2814 initial + 3502 backtrack.)
  
• Recycling previous scumhunting points used by others and deliberately manipulating either the facts of what happened or the intent of the point to fit his narrative to try and bolster fake scumhunting. (2091)
  
• Any pressure has been attempted to be discredited with the insinuation that things are personal as opposed to being scumhunting - discrediting and no actual defense. (1642, 2089)

[Almost50]

-1 minute after daystart made a long post where he said the vig should shoot DGB
-Hard pushed DGB D1
-Basically claimed vig

How does Dunn posting about SRing DGB on D2 hint he was the one to shoot her on N1??? Like, he literally pretended not to be aware DGB had flipped already!!!

[Almost50]

i was targeted by an announcing role that i think is more likely to be scum aligned (especially assuming town!A50 +provides weak Bayesian evidence for town!A50 on a couple of levels)

Do you think it's scum aligned because it's another announcing role or do you think it's scum aligned because of the role itself

the role itself

Are you not mentioning the role for a certain purpose? I haven't asked the first time, but you're still not saying anything more about it, so I guess I am curious.