Mini Number 2195 | Brutalism | GAME OVER

[Green Crayons]

@mod:

I'm not voting myself.

<<Woops! Had your name on there twice. Fixed.>>

[Reformed Toxic Player]

is there a reason why you're town on lotus that's not about that one post?

That post pushed it over into a comfortable town read just because I think it's a low likelihood for scum to post that sort of thing. Before that, I was toying with town because of his tunnel on VD. He saw some early play that he thought looked scummy, and then stuck with it in a way that I find myself doing when convinced I've got scum. His openness about the fact he was tunneling doesn't do him any favors, so I don't see the "scum tunnel so they can be lazy" theory fitting.

thanks for the townread on me here

okay

grass is blue and sky is green

if this is stuff you're townreading, by proxy you should be townreading me - im just applying your own logic elsewhere.

[Green Crayons]

you haven't tunneled on a player, you've jumped around a lot.

[ItalianoVD]

is "directing traffic" scummy? yeah i like to exert control over the game state. so what?

Not in general terms, but it’s the way you’ve been directing traffic this game. Throwing things out and seeing what happens then changing when it doesn’t go where you want it, etc. It’s nai, but in the context of this game it feels scummy.

[Battle Mage]

lol Toxic, everything is fine with me. your silly pot shots at me seem to be based on your own interpretation of my play - which differs quite a lot from reality! hardly surprising as you barely have any experience playing with me. maybe don't worry so much about me, and stick to worrying about yourself.

[ItalianoVD]

It’s nai, but in the context of this game it feels scummy.

Just clarify, directing traffic is nai, not jumping around.

Yeah I’m going here today.
VOTE: RTP

[Battle Mage]

in a funny way, this is quite a pleasing turn of events. often i get too wrapped up in games and let the emotions run away with me. here i'm relaxed...and erring on the side of bored and impatient for an elim.

[Battle Mage]

i do solemnly swear that if we elim RTP today, I will be a good and productive and devoted townie tomorrow (as I won't be dodging RTP's snark in the thread)

[Battle Mage]

and if we don't elim RTP today, I will be a total grump.

[Battle Mage]

i have a scummy feeling about midway btw, but that's one for later

[DkKoba]

i have a scummy feeling about midway btw, but that's one for later

cool - if i get flipped how about you do something useful and sheep me on my townread there. thanks bud.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

i have a scummy feeling about midway btw, but that's one for later

cool - if i get flipped how about you do something useful and sheep me on my townread there. thanks bud.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

It’s nai, but in the context of this game it feels scummy.

Just clarify, directing traffic is nai, not jumping around.

Yeah I’m going here today.
VOTE: RTP

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[RLotus]

zzzz

[Reformed Toxic Player]

i do solemnly swear that if we elim RTP today, I will be a good and productive and devoted townie tomorrow (as I won't be dodging RTP's snark in the thread)

and if we don't elim RTP today, I will be a total grump.

i have a scummy feeling about midway btw, but that's one for later

but please never ever play with me again. these kinds of unwarranted lines are unnecessary if you're not going to cite anything to back it up.

your play right now consists of hardfocusing my slot and waving off any sort of criticism of your read with "haha idc they're being mean to me anyways so i'll be lazy and keep my vote here"


you're not even concerned about being wrong. you're just straight grudge tunneling me like you fucking do in all your games towards ppl on d1. you've been on this site since 2007 - how can you ingrain such habits and not like realize that MAYBE you're doing something wrong????????

[Battle Mage]

i have a scummy feeling about midway btw, but that's one for later

cool - if i get flipped how about you do something useful and sheep me on my townread there. thanks bud.

with the greatest respect in the world, i'm unlikely to sheep your reads regardless of what you flip. not because I'm "egotistical" or "stubborn", but because:

A. I'm sure that once you're dead, the game will be more fun and I'll feel more motivated to actually form more developed reads of my own. At the moment it's hard to get invested when I'm dealing with your nonsensical personal attacks (and I'd rather be un-invested than respond in kind).
B. This is a strong playerlist, and there are other players here I'd be sheeping before you.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

zzzz

how about u just like help instead of just letting ppl like BM be allowed to be platformed and not have takes like theirs shut down when they're clearly bad??????

hey if you're town you need to actually speak up if you do townread me because im tired of fucking doing this shit alone and having to feel antagonized by shittunnels on my slot every game

[Reformed Toxic Player]

i have a scummy feeling about midway btw, but that's one for later

cool - if i get flipped how about you do something useful and sheep me on my townread there. thanks bud.

with the greatest respect in the world, i'm unlikely to sheep your reads regardless of what you flip. not because I'm "egotistical" or "stubborn", but because:

A. I'm sure that once you're dead, the game will be more fun and I'll feel more motivated to actually form more developed reads of my own. At the moment it's hard to get invested when I'm dealing with your nonsensical personal attacks (and I'd rather be un-invested than respond in kind).
B. This is a strong playerlist, and there are other players here I'd be sheeping before you.

you're an ass.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

straight up telling a person you're shittunneling that the game will be fun without them is shitty as hell - i dont care what alignment you are. knock it the fuck off.

[Green Crayons]

not sure where you get that i'm townreading elements, but i think on balance his play points away from scum

Sorry if you answered this already, but what did you think of their progression on Baltar from the Baltar/Duchess discussion?

I couldn't quite follow what Elements was finding suspicious, as the (Duchess claimed to have caught Elements lurking) versus (Duchess claimed to have caught Elements while they were online) distinction seemed to be both accurate. I don't know why Baltar focusing on one and not the other was a misrep, as Elements was saying.

Pushing that sort of thinnest of split hairs as a basis for suspicion would be suspicious if Elements stuck to it imo. But that Elements took a moment, reflected, and then backed away while also undermining the line of suspicion (so they weren't just planting it out there for someone else to pick up) seems town on a surface level.

I also think it's plausible that Elements!scum thought they had something, realized it wouldn't really stick, and fessed up--which gives them points for being reasonable while also abandoning a difficult line of suspicion to push.

So in a vacuum: town vibes. But, in context of the rest of Elements play: I'd feel more comfortable with a town takeaway if the rest of Elements play was a strong town read. But they're not strong town, so it doesn't move the needle for me much.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

BM - go take a look at your own ISO, and tell me if you were town in MY position how would you feel with the way you are talking to me. Just try it. Maybe some empathy won't hurt.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

Yeah I got out of line for calling out your accuracy and shit and sorry for that - but literally like - the way you're approaching me is super frustrating and anti town fmpov and quite honestly is making me upset irl bc of how little control I feel i have here bc theres no one here to back me up.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

like holy fuck like hell the fact no one has spoken up in a vocal way about it should point me towards town like ........wow.

italiano, you saw how active i was in scumchat and directing stuff, you saw how i told you to pretend to omgus you. you should freaking know.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

i will fight every vote on me hard enough that every scum will have to be voting me in order to get an elim through on me. i promise that.

[Reformed Toxic Player]

(for fucking real tho on any other mafia website I'd be universally townread by this point its kinda ridiculous lmfao)