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[OkaPoka]

is it anti town for you to explain what you thought was happening? if you don't think it is im curious bc it seemed like you were one of the people making me feel dumb for not knowing what was going on lol

sometimes its fun to fuck around and this is not something that really mattered

although it depends on the time frame because i didnt know ythan thought they were masons until i said illuminati

[OkaPoka]

the hop thing is somewhat self resolving isn't it?

[Xtoxm]

fuck mech, mY ReADs R bEtTEr
youre fucking terrible

[Titus]

VOTE: agar

did i not do this yesterday, that's weird

This is an alright vote.

[Titus]

VOTE: agar

did i not do this yesterday, that's weird

This is an alright vote.

[Almost50]

@A50

4755 was so fucking hilariously bad - you should have like 11 coaches at your disposal to help you make better posts as scum.

I'll take that as a compliment, and I am now proud I made such an impressive post. (Hint: That's how high I hold your opinion of what I post, to be blunt).

Like, you don't even read (or -if you do- you have serious problems comprehending what you read) so why the freak should I even give your opinion any weight at all?

You said I didn't mention anything about "yeeting" Hop in 4700 when I clearly listed him and you as my bottom 2 reads (unless you meant I didn't use the term "yeet"). I just said I didn't think he was scum anymore for the Announcing Nea revelation, but then I posted 4701 that expressed a lapse in my comprehension, and I reiterated my confusion regarding the TR I declared on Hop in 4702.

The "explanation" that you claim never followed was actually explained in the very same post I said it will follow (post 4703), and merely 3 lines below the quote. I said I had a pet theory about Hop/Titus both being Scum, and I even countered my own point there (also within the same post). Note that the pet theory was about it being Hop that is the Scum of the two of you. I said "(pet theory it's Hop now. Explanation to follow)", so how the freak could you have missed that if you were reading and comprehending??

Now let's get to the third quote (in 4755): You were attacking Hop for not reevaluating his TOWN-BLOODY-BLOCK, so it follows that you

must

have an objection on someone within it. If you believe "there doesn't have to be scum within that pool" then your whole case against Hop falls apart and is literally meaningless. Like, are you saying "I agree they're likely Town, but I want you to change your stance on -at least- one of them still"??

I do not recall you being so...

[insert proper description of you behaviour in this game that doesn't break the rules]

from the games we played together before. You're either Scum who is really struggling or you lost quite a few brain cells, and I lean the former because I don't want to accuse you of being .. err.. going backwards in evolution terms.

[Bell]

IV called a50 his partner right after his ridiculous fakeclaim and I took it as a mason claim but that wasn't correct.

A misinterpretation of a misinterpretation huh.

Can someone explain how Hopkirk self-resolves. My mechanical game is shit. All I got was that he claimed that he was checked by a neopolitan that may or may not be from scum.

[Almost50]

The way AGar is behaving I think Scum didn't see the "Backup Role" coming, and simply can't handle it. With all virtually all TPRs either exposed or killed already, the Neapolitan confirming TWO Townies, plus themselves makes it nigh impossible for Scum to eliminate them during the day, and with the possibility of me either blocking a kill or taking one Scum out with me if they do target me that's GG.

P-edit: Dann was 3 shots. Assuming he used up one on the night he was shot the backup inherited 2 shots, One was already used on Hop, so the last shot can be used on N3 and then the "new Nea" can claim and out results.

[Almost50]

@Bell: How do you feel about AGar now?? Right now. If you had to choose between jjh and AGar (with no third option and no chance of abstaining); who would you vote to lim?

[Ythan]

Is there a standard normal protocol on how many shots a backup of a limited shot role that has used shots gets?

[Almost50]

They get the remaining shots (the number of shots the original role had unused at the time of their death)

[jjh927]

Is there a standard normal protocol on how many shots a backup of a limited shot role that has used shots gets?

Yep, it's like purchasing a used jigsaw from a charity shop

[Bell]

@Bell: How do you feel about AGar now?? Right now. If you had to choose between jjh and AGar (with no third option and no chance of abstaining); who would you vote to lim?

JJH. I don't want to lose to that.

[mastina]

VOTE: jjh

jjh is a really bad vote here and I'm basically hard-convinced he is town here. (Titus, I know you don't want to, but please trust me on this for now.)

The wagon on him especially with votes like this is thus: bad.

Voting Hopkirk when Hopkirk has a mechanical result on him is bad.
Voting jjh is very bad.

There are, legitimately, only four slots that should be elimination candidates today:
{AGar, Bell, OkaPoka, Winter Flakes}.

Everyone else should be off the table for damn good reasons.

And I really don't get why people aren't realizing that OkaPoka's been on a game-long campaign to put people down, to shade them, without actually doing anything town.

[Bell]

I feel like if I had a starmap I could look from my previous game with him to this one and say, yeah, that's Agar. Also, his contempt doesn't look fake to me.

[Bell]

Or he's really good at faking contempt maybe. I dunno what his scum game looks like.

[mastina]

Can someone explain how Hopkirk self-resolves. My mechanical game is shit. All I got was that he claimed that he was checked by a neopolitan that may or may not be from scum.

Hopkirk was visited by an announcing Neapolitan.
Occam's razor suggests that the announcing Neapolitan is a Universal Backup, who inherited Dannflor's role of 3x Announcing Neapolitan. (Universal Backups inherit the role of the first role of their alignment--a scum UB cannot inherit a town role, and a town UB cannot inherit a scum role so the UB is innately a town one.)
Neapolitans get the results of "Not a Vanilla Townie", "Vanilla Townie", or "No Result".
The Neapolitan having Announced its visit, it won't have gotten "No Result". It thus got either "Not a Vanilla Townie" or "Vanilla Townie".
A result of Vanilla Townie is a hard-innocent: it cannot be scum because no scum, not even a goon, shows up as 'Vanilla Townie' to a Neapolitan.

Ergo, with Hopkirk visited by a UB turned 3x Neapolitan, there is a fair chance that Hopkirk is conftown and even if not, it is best tabled at least until tomorrow (if not massclaim), because the UB turned 3x Neapolitan should still have one more shot left (Dann presumably used one N1, the UB turned 3x Neapolitan used a second N2, and thus the third shot would be used N3).

[Bell]

Thank you.

UNVOTE:

[Almost50]

@Bell: How do you feel about AGar now?? Right now. If you had to choose between jjh and AGar (with no third option and no chance of abstaining); who would you vote to lim?

JJH. I don't want to lose to that.

There are, legitimately, only four slots that should be elimination candidates today:
{AGar, Bell, OkaPoka, Winter Flakes}.

Aight!

VOTE: AGar

[Bell]

That cuts deep A50. Not because of the sass. But because you agreed with Mastina while you did it.

[AGar]

Clarifying for Keely, because I'm terrible at paraphrasing: he does believe that yeeting Hop would be suboptimal in the technical sense, and his comment was aimed at the game at large, not @Ceph or any one person. Also per Keely if (when) Hop is revealed to be scum, mastina needs to eat a yeet.

Parenthetical mine. Fuck I hate paraphrasing.

Because he said someone visited him? Because there's no way he could lie about that, right?

why do you care so much if we catch scum today vs tomorrow?

....

I'm not here to play this game on hard mode because of the cult of PRs.

I mean I've actually listed out on both of those players, but that would require you reading a post that was more three fucking sentences and we all know that's too much of an inconvenience for you to do.

I read it. You don't need to be a dick.

I mean I kinda do because people aren't reading my posts, yet again, and then accusing me of shit like you did. I said that mastina's read simply boosted my confidence, but you decided to take a stray shot like that was all I had going for my reads. So again, I don't think you're reading my posts. But this isn't new for me I'm just mad at the world.

About half of the points you made resonated with me and Hopkirk has been on my suspect list since day 1 where he remains. I'm hardly the person to bitch at about this.

Consider then, how it appears that I have been beating the fucking drum about Hopkirk since Day 1 and I've gotten a lot of "oh yeah, that's true, but

not today

for three straight fucking days."

fuck mech, mY ReADs R bEtTEr
youre fucking terrible

Rich! Is Auro still piloting this game for you or did you decide to play?

[AGar]

Like y'all are fawning over a potential TPR that may or may not exist and mastina's "reads" and ignoring scum and y'all are gonna set us back even fucking further. Fuck all this noise.

[AGar]

No one ever fucking considered that scum might *gasp*

lie

.

[Bell]

I think A50's vote was a bad vote.

[jjh927]

Why do you think Hopkirk would lie about something highly provable