Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[Kitty Trauma Team]

Excuse me, but am I the only one unsettled by the fact Bork has not mentioned Titus once prior to Ffery interaction and then

humped

jumped on after I voted.

-M

Preddit:

You done ducked up.

[MathBlade]

thank you.
i would sig that if i weren't committed to the beefycheese.

i might anyway.

I’m flattered but if you do wait until post game. Changing avatars or sigs as in game manipulation is a site wide rule no no.

[borkjerfkin]

i comprehend.

I was in walking dead but replaced out when i got miserable (and i think my slot was NKed that night anyway) - what about mastina from walking dead is relevant here wrt her scum game in general?

[MathBlade]

Excuse me, but am I the only one unsettled by the fact Bork has not mentioned Titus once prior to Ffery interaction and then

humped

jumped on after I voted.

-M

Preddit:

You done ducked up.

Not really. Bork had a good wall with reads. Not bothered by it.

Would appreciate a redo sangres.

[borkjerfkin]

Excuse me, but am I the only one unsettled by the fact Bork has not mentioned Titus once prior to Ffery interaction and then humped jumped on after I voted.

my vote had nothing to do w/ yours other than it put it in the forefront of my mind, and I was already considering going there. Was the only one of the wagons here I feel comfortable being on both by my read on the slot itself and my reads on its members

[sangres]

i comprehend.

I was in walking dead but replaced out when i got miserable (and i think my slot was NKed that night anyway) - what about mastina from walking dead is relevant here wrt her scum game in general?

Nothing specific, just a game where I scumread Mastina day 2 (I think?), Nacho townread her, and I let my concerns drop. Mastina was elimmed a few game days later and flipped traitor.

Excuse me, but am I the only one unsettled by the fact Bork has not mentioned Titus once prior to Ffery interaction and then

humped

jumped on after I voted.

-M

Preddit:

You done ducked up.

There's not a whole huge lot to bork's iso, but he has mentioned not liking Titus before.

[borkjerfkin]

god i fucking sucked in walking dead

anyway, i appreciate the reachout as that has helped me center myself and figure out where i wanted to be.

Can you summarize nacho's conflicting take?

[Bell]

I'm town lurking, not scum lurking.

I'm just gunna sheep LLD day one.
I will state the only player I will probably vote not named Mathblade this day phase is Mastina.

[sangres]

1323 Redo:

@Bork, what are your thoughts on stuff?

stuff that you particularly commented on here, off the cuff:

Game is starting to get a little drowned out by non-AI chest thumping but:

Still think Math is town; what do you mean by "Trollish" - reading this as more "I'm continually slighted by LLD; what can I even do here?" and am not bothered by it

Thanks. This is why I wish Nacho was around, to counterbalance my predispositions. I know they're there, but I can't fully stomp them.

I actually like everything from Dunn 1125+

I like that post, too. And I feel like the BoP stuff from Spiffeh related to Dunn's play in that game is unfair, though I don't scumread Spiffeh for thinking that way.

Agree w/ Prism town and don't really see anything that suggests otherwise in that body of work. Whatever, Prism could probably run circles around me if they wanted but I'm just not seeing the angles of attack that some others are making; seems breadth focused, analytic, bristly when attacked for the wrong reasons, pretty much everything I saw in 2181.

Agree. I don't think similar tone and tempo to that game makes Prism town. It's the content here that I feel comfortable with.

I think Cakez is town?; I noted that he called out Prism's read on me in particular as something that he disagreed with, but had me in null, and was looking for another spot where he and Prism differed in a more profound way and couldn't really find one. is poking at stones mostly ignored by others.

Yeah. I laughed a hollow laugh at Pooky's jibe about self-meta there.

Don't really like anything Mastina has posted so far, esp wrt that flavor angle

Obviously, same. I probably won't move my vote there without Nacho having a look because I have a fair bit of respect for nacho's ability to read Mastina, though I still and will always keep the Walking Dead game in mind.

Don't like any of Titus' voting patterns esp wrt Mathblade.

I just don't feel any conviction from Titus, and I definitely don't feel like she's made the slightest effort to engage me despite developing quite the scumread over the last 3-4 pages.

Don't really like Battle Mage's stance around Titus and Math or Dunn.

I liked his early-early posts and thought I could see where he was coming from. That's slight sync with where his head appeared to be at disappeared before morning phase ended and I've never recovered it.

We need to do more of this.

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New Stuff:

god i fucking sucked in walking dead

anyway, i appreciate the reachout as that has helped me center myself and figure out where i wanted to be.

Can you summarize nacho's conflicting take?

Do you mean his take on Mastina? Nacho hasn't seen any of Mastina's content posts afaik and doesn't have a take there yet, which is why I'm in a holding pattern on her, despite my scumread. Nacho's been too busy with work since Monday night to do more than acknowledge some of the posts I've linked from this game and apologize for not having time for games atm.

[SirCakez]

@Bork, what are your thoughts on stuff?

stuff that you particularly commented on here, off the cuff:

Game is starting to get a little drowned out by non-AI chest thumping but:

Still think Math is town; what do you mean by "Trollish" - reading this as more "I'm continually slighted by LLD; what can I even do here?" and am not bothered by it
I actually like everything from Dunn 1125+
Agree w/ Prism town and don't really see anything that suggests otherwise in that body of work. Whatever, Prism could probably run circles around me if they wanted but I'm just not seeing the angles of attack that some others are making; seems breadth focused, analytic, bristly when attacked for the wrong reasons, pretty much everything I saw in 2181.
I think Cakez is town?; I noted that he called out Prism's read on me in particular as something that he disagreed with, but had me in null, and was looking for another spot where he and Prism differed in a more profound way and couldn't really find one. is poking at stones mostly ignored by others.
Don't really like anything Mastina has posted so far, esp wrt that flavor angle
Don't like any of Titus' voting patterns esp wrt Mathblade.
Don't really like Battle Mage's stance around Titus and Math or Dunn.

This post is better then anything else in borks iso

[borkjerfkin]

Do you mean his take on Mastina? Nacho hasn't seen any of Mastina's content posts afaik and doesn't have a take there yet, which is why I'm in a holding pattern on her, despite my scumread. Nacho's been too busy with work since Monday night to do more than acknowledge some of the posts I've linked from this game and apologize for not having time for games atm.

yeah, and nvm i misunderstood then, i misconstrued the "nacho's ability to read Mastina" as a "nacho is currently townreading mastina" and not the "nacho isn't engaged" that it was.

oh:

We need to do more of this.

winky face

[MathBlade]

Think the game needs a bit of humor:

“Veth: Please don’t attack me I am traveling with a murderer”
Matt Roll persuasion at disadvantage
Sam 1 and doesn’t reroll despite halfling
Me hahahahaha that tracks

(Critical role)

[Titus]

Claiming VT.

Don't care if I get yeeted. This game is a town loss. There's no cohesion or ability to get it thanks to the stupid post restriction.

You have my solve. See you in 1-2 months.

[MathBlade]

The post restriction is a limit of 80 something pages and you’re not even posting.

There’s 40 pages left.

There’s actually a pretty good town block imho, even if I am not in it which is my job as a Townie.
LLD, Kitty, sangres, Tammy, Pooky, Prism, bork and that’s off the top of my head.

Is Titus just defeated scum here?

[MathBlade]

Okay 30ish I can’t do math sometimes but that’s still a lot. Y’all get my point.

[Titus]

The post restriction is a limit of 80 something pages and you’re not even posting.

There’s 40 pages left.

There’s actually a pretty good town block imho, even if I am not in it which is my job as a Townie.
LLD, Kitty, sangres, Tammy, Pooky, Prism, bork and that’s off the top of my head.

Is Titus just defeated scum here?

Tammy isn't posting because of grading and spam. No one tries to work with her.
Kitty is town and fair to be in a block.
LLD is lying and not a team player so she is not in any block. She's a dictator.
Sangres isn't town which is a requirement. That's part of why town loses.
Pooky is fair in a block.
Prism isn't working with anyone and his interactions with Cakez are bad. If it wasn't for VCA, they'd be partners.
Bork is close to fair but not active enough to actually form a block.

Townblocks are active and discuss reads with each other. Aside from Cakez, it's which policy elimination to pursue.

I don't want to play in a post limited game with you and LLD but subbing out would be tactical and against the rules.

[Titus]

I am defeated here, but you have my alignment wrong. This is a great group but these mechanics are no fun.

[Prism]

UNVOTE:

decent chance I revote but want to revisit Cakez first tomorrow

Titus is being incredibly delusional btw but that's on us to work around if she's town

I'm also seriously considering a Math yeet just because I don't think I will ever be able to sort the slot.

Idk feel great about no votes, kinda sucks

[sangres]

We are town. That's the one fact from which everything we post flows, and which shapes our thoughts about the game.

If you're town, Titus, I'm not sure why you'd misread us so emphatically.

I'm sorry the post limitation is such a problem for you. I see it as not that different from the FGO game, except we may actually run up against the limit this game day, something that never really threatened to happen in the FGO game.

I play conversationally, so keeping my postcount reasonable is a bit of a struggle, and I worry big quote-and-replies may cause eyes to glaze over.

Even so, I like this pace. I feel like everyone should be able to keep up with the game and if we do have replacements it won't be a Sisyphean ordeal to get into the game.

Tammy almost always has days where her worklife takes precedence. I don't think that prevents her from contributing significantly as any alignment. And, nacho and I, at least, have worked with her, and will continue to do so.

[MathBlade]

Like I don’t get why Titus is having an issue.

We all had to read the rules on replace in.

Why is this only an issue now?

Someone help me here. Am I just an ass?

The only real person whose been hyper about post count really is me, but that’s mostly because I have been in the hot seat all day.

[MathBlade]

Wow that should be game start lol
I replace in so much it’s my default lmao

[Prism]

sangres, if it isn't obvious I honestly have no fucking clue who is scum this game, suggestions are welcome, looks like you kind of concur on Titus but do you have any others? iirc you also scumread Dunn for that weird ass interaction with us

Titus in general has been a delusional/cynical mess all game long, so I agree with you, there's just one or two posts that give me doubt.

[Titus]

@sangres, Everything flowing isn't how I read you. In fact, one could argue consistency is scummy.

Your position on me has been tunnely nonsense. I get some of the votes on me. Yours, I struggle to see a town perspective on. It feels like a chainsaw from my earlier posting. You never took me head on and said your problem imo but you were perfectly ok to sheep other opinions.

I play conversationally too but if everyone plays conversationally we get a deadline elimination on town. I suck day one (usually) so it's best to let others take charge with such bullshit in place.

The problem is that letting others take charge shouldn't lead to opinions being treated as bullshit or ignored. I felt compelled to reply to this post because this reachout from whichever head is talking feels rather genuine and caused me to reconsider that read.

I agree with the game pace being fine. The problem is it's because slots are silenced. Tammy and mastina have nothing memorable. I can't push on the Prism/Cakez issue because it would take too many posts to pressure the thread and demand that read from Cakez while fending off "confirmed" town. Fighting confirmed town when you suck at day 1, defending yourself takes valuable resources, and you can't get a solid person to sheep is hard. It's hopeless when I can't see who to get to work together.

I'll read through this one more time by Saturday at noon. Then eliminate me or not.

The popularity contest for artifacts encourages the lying for power. Then the post limit creates a tradegy of the commons situation with posting.

Every post I make takes a post from someone else. Players like Math don't get that. He sucks day 1 too and he spams. He doesn't work with others. I think his level of crazy is town this game but I have been burned before.

I guess what I need is hope. I don't see where it is.

[Titus]

We all had to read the rules on replace in.

Why is this only an issue now?

You're not an ass.

The post limit and popularity contest were not in the signup thread. I always had an issue with them once I found out.

[Titus]

I might be depressed.

Don't be surprised if I don't post tomorrow. I'm trying to sort that out.

X post all games.