I don't think anyone I want to vote out is getting voted out and I don't want any of the people it looks like are going to be voted out to be voted out. I also liked maxewll's most recent catch upIn post 1594, Datisi wrote:@elements why are you voting lotus now?
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Thank you for working to make the game less toxic.In post 1601, Battle Mage wrote:out of courtesy, and in recognition of a formal warning received, I'm issuing a formal apology to anybody who has been offended by me during this game.
Mod: I think lotus voted before me. Just for accuracy in wagon position.
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Why those two specifically?In post 1603, ItalianoVD wrote:@Elements @BM might as well just vote me. We can end this day and you guys can catch the scum that’s on my wagon.YOUR AD HERE- Andresvmb
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You literally made my point in this post. It’s a crap wagon because you’re quite undecided about your read (though I think maxwell is Town), you guys aren’t really pushing hard for it, and it’s most likely not going to happen today. Outside of what I may think of the slot, there’s clearly not a whole lot of interesting in resolving there. So your vote is wasted.In post 1594, Datisi wrote:why is it a crap wagon? i don't think i've yet to see something that said townie to me from max and i remember harumi being one of my first scummy gutpings this game.- Andresvmb
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I have, you just haven’t read all of my posts. Though some of it I suppose is implied. We seem to have a broadly similar view of the game. I know my perspective is Town right. And since they clearly came to some of these conclusions before I made any points public, they seem independent of any influence from me. So I’m going to lean positively overall.
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They were the last two to post. Andres can do it. I don't care.In post 1605, VP Baltar wrote:Why those two specifically?- VP Baltar
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I’m not going to disagree with you that flipping Italiano will resolve more than a few questions. That’s fair. I will say though, whenever I see that varying camps are looking to compromise somewhere, I very rarely get the feeling it’s the right choice. I would be more aggressive in defending Italiano if I was surer that they’re Town. I might want to ISO there and figure out bottom line what I think is going to happen. But I have to tell you - overall, I’m not particularly positive on it flipping Scum. But if you read the Large Normal I played recently, this is also not as obvious to me as flipping Nero was that game (where I was far more certain that it was a mistake).In post 1610, VP Baltar wrote:Counterpoint, andres, is I think resolving Italiano at least gives us some information given most people have stated some kinds of thoughts there.- Datisi
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he was talking about my prior vote on max. which like, i disagree with it being wasted, because scum's gotta be somewhere, and at this point i don't have a problem voting for someone i don't townread. you never know what happens there. though kind of moot since i'm not voting there anymore but whatever.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- ItalianoVD
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You don’t have to waste your time bro. You can just vote. If you’re town you’ll figure it out on Day 2In post 1611, Andresvmb wrote:I might want to ISO there and figure out bottom line what I think is going to happen.- Andresvmb
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We clearly have different philosophies about what makes sense, so I don’t want to get too bogged down on this. But to be transparent with you, you sitting alone or on a 2 person wagon as Town doesn’t help. To me, broadly speaking, it helps the Scum. Unless you’re able to convince people you’re correct (and I think you’re just wrong there but whatever), then it’s a total waste of time in my view. Yeah, Scum’s gotta be somewhere. But you’re giving the Scum more leverage to direct the execution if you take yourself out if you will by voting for a wagon that is unlikely to materialize (in my estimation).In post 1612, Datisi wrote:he was talking about my prior vote on max. which like, i disagree with it being wasted, because scum's gotta be somewhere, and at this point i don't have a problem voting for someone i don't townread.- Andresvmb
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I’m just going to say that I am free to use my free time however I want hahaIn post 1613, ItalianoVD wrote:
You don’t have to waste your time bro. You can just vote. If you’re town you’ll figure it out on Day 2In post 1611, Andresvmb wrote:I might want to ISO there and figure out bottom line what I think is going to happen.- ItalianoVD
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Okay fair enough. Just figured you wanna just get the day done quicker.In post 1615, Andresvmb wrote:I’m just going to say that I am free to use my free time however I want haha- Reformed Toxic Player
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you know whats crazy is that I think I've seen that exact slide when I visited poland 15 years ago.In post 1602, OutWorldER wrote:
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last minute wagons can materialize and hit scum idm datisi voting his heartIn post 1614, Andresvmb wrote:
We clearly have different philosophies about what makes sense, so I don’t want to get too bogged down on this. But to be transparent with you, you sitting alone or on a 2 person wagon as Town doesn’t help. To me, broadly speaking, it helps the Scum. Unless you’re able to convince people you’re correct (and I think you’re just wrong there but whatever), then it’s a total waste of time in my view. Yeah, Scum’s gotta be somewhere. But you’re giving the Scum more leverage to direct the execution if you take yourself out if you will by voting for a wagon that is unlikely to materialize (in my estimation).In post 1612, Datisi wrote:he was talking about my prior vote on max. which like, i disagree with it being wasted, because scum's gotta be somewhere, and at this point i don't have a problem voting for someone i don't townread.- VP Baltar
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Yeah, I definitely agree. I'm not confident at all in this being the right choice, but if I'm going to compromise, at least I'm voting with my top town read.In post 1611, Andresvmb wrote:I will say though, whenever I see that varying camps are looking to compromise somewhere, I very rarely get the feeling it’s the right choice. I would be more aggressive in defending Italiano if I was surer that they’re Town.
I think I could make a strong argument that a Dunn yeet is less of a risk, but we also don't gain much info if he does happen to flip town.YOUR AD HERE- midwaybear
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and to sort-of cut to the chase: i'm asking this in the context of folks (you also?) describing your play as chaotic in this game, which was not something they saw as usual for you (correct me if i'm wrong about this)In post 1524, Green Crayons wrote:
i missed this earlier.In post 1497, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:
lmao maybe i could but thatd be like a play for a game i really really wanted to win as scum not just like a one off normal for me where i'd go with my more comfortable plays that have worked for me.In post 1491, Green Crayons wrote::
how should i go about determining whether this is a game where you really want to win as scum or a game where this is you're pursuing your more comfortable plays?"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).- Green Crayons
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if it's elements vs. VD why are people picking VD? they are equally townish but VD has actually been participating recently. plus I agree with his reads so I'm biased but also reflects potential of coming from town mindset."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting). - Green Crayons
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