Newbie 2055: City Lights [game over!]

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

I'll reread tomorrow morning maybe. Busy weekend for me, functionally v/la

[Vasex]

What does it mean v/la ?

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

vacation/limited access

I'm not on vacation, just have some work stuff to do this weekend, if I can I'll try to see where I'm at on Sunday or Monday at the very latest but I want to work on a reads list and review where I'm at

[Datisi]

Vote count 2.01

with 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-03-06 01:45:00).

elimination

KittyTacky [1]:

Battle Mage

floo [1]:

Vasex

Not voting [5]:

floo, KittyTacky, FBJim, Happy Unbirthday Boon, team rocket queen

mod notes

~ battle mage v/la until monday

flavour

[Vasex]

I'd be surprised if both HUB and TRQ are town. It feels like 1 SE-1 newbie scum. But I have more confidence in flipping the newbie.

What about the obvious "rule" that mafia usually are not so talkative?

[Vasex]

Activity overview:
flow trap 184
Happy Unbirthday Boon 152
team rocket queen 120
Vasex 91
FBJim 62
Ydrasse 46
fairyprincess69 27
KittyTacky 26
Battle Mage 24
floo 16

Sometimes it works

[Vasex]

HUB and TRQ from the first till the last messages looked like they have no problems to keep the conversation going, any conversation, very easy-going

And it is impossible to say the same about Floo for example, a typical mafia, isn't he? People usually don't like to write too much playing for mafia . especially when there are LOTS of abilities not to write much (no big pressure, much time for days, the ability to be active another time etc)

I think it is especially should work for newbie games, whatever it means

[Vasex]

I had some doubts about FT because of that, but he was rather annoying, and I had no much time and a wish to defend him. I was on fully trust to HUB, and he didn't do anything that disturbed me. So does TRQ.
That's why it is difficult for me to understand what bothers you so much, BM, but I appreciate that you decided to focus on KT (who is smth about null for me) instead of HUB and I understand some of your reasons, i.e. "I struggled to believe that HUB really thought that was a scum-elim, but nonetheless HUB continued to railroad it over the line."

[KittyTacky]

Tomorrow I think I'll re-read everything (or most of it) and concretely read on Floo.

Also it's kinda weird how HUB is so active according to that list. While I certainly *noticed* HUB's posts... they didn't seem so many if that makes sense?

[Vasex]

Also it's kinda weird how HUB is so active according to that list. While I certainly *noticed* HUB's posts... they didn't seem so many if that makes sense?

So in your understanding FT, TRQ were much more active than HUB?
And you can compare the filling of the posts between FT and HUB for example. Did you miss most of the posts of HUB?
I don't like the way you are shading HUB right now. It looks like you find the position of BM against HUB rather convinient for you now, but there is no strong sense in your reason for doing this.

[Vasex]

Reads:
Vasex: slightly town for reasons described above.
flow trap: slightly scummy due to just generally acting sus, which I articulated before.
Floo: slightly scummy, due to being rather quiet except to defend flow.
HUB: somwhat town. I don't know how to explain it.
Everyone else, including TRQ, is null to my relatively unexperienced mind.

You didn't have problems with HUB, he is top2 townie for you the previous day. But after the night and these posts...

VOTE: kittytacky

top TRs: FBJim, Vasex

top SRs: Kittytacky, HUB

...after these posts you, Kitty, began looking in HUBs direction with the argument that you didn't notice his large activity .
That's quite interesting)

[Vasex]

Maybe Ydra solved it. Firstly she readscumed FT/Kitty, but in the end she changed it to Floo/Kitty. And she is dead now.

[Vasex]

*scumread

[Vasex]

So I am thinking about two mafia scums in Floo and Kitty more and more.
Everybody else seems less mafia than they are. I have a good feeling about that.

[FBJim]

hate to join the v/la club but add me to the "gotta reread and get my head back into the game" pile. more a semi-prodge but it'll be tomorrow at the latest

[KittyTacky]

Also it's kinda weird how HUB is so active according to that list. While I certainly *noticed* HUB's posts... they didn't seem so many if that makes sense?

So in your understanding FT, TRQ were much more active than HUB?
And you can compare the filling of the posts between FT and HUB for example. Did you miss most of the posts of HUB?
I don't like the way you are shading HUB right now. It looks like you find the position of BM against HUB rather convinient for you now, but there is no strong sense in your reason for doing this.

I actually mild-TR HUB. It was just an observation.

[KittyTacky]

It was just an observation.

In response to your post count.

[Vasex]

Bad observation.
I'm waiting for your vote in floo. He was scum for you, but all your votes were for FT.
Or maybe all your suspicion to floo was based on the idea that he could be defending his partner FT, and now if they are not a pair, then floo is not mafia for you... Is it so?

[Vasex]

Also it's kinda weird how HUB is so active according to that list. While I certainly *noticed* HUB's posts... they didn't seem so many if that makes sense?

This idea in a best case scenario could come into your head if you didn't read the thread properly, because you didn't care about the execution of flow trap, not your partner, it didn't matter for you what townies find suspicious in each other. That's why you didn't notice how many posts there were from HUB, and before that too. HUB was the most active player in the game before his attack to flow trap, that forced ft to be very active too with his couple-words-posts.

And if FBJim is a townie, his confidence in you cannot be ignored too.

[Vasex]

VOTE: KittyTacky

[KittyTacky]

I was reading floo's posts. That's why I didn't vote him yet. Yes he seems scummy to me now. -_-

VOTE: floo

[Vasex]

[Vasex]

So why is he scummy in his posts?

[Battle Mage]

eurgh. couple quick thoughts from a skimread:

I'm feeling more comfortable elimming KittyTacky today. Agree with Vasex on that one.
I'm not remotely convinced Floo is scum, and no intention of elimming Floo today. Hard disagree with Vasex on that one.
I need FBJim here as my locktown read.

I think I'll commit that, unless something monumental changes, the elim pool for me today is: {KittyTacky, HUB, TRQ} Although really, it's just KittyTacky right?

[Battle Mage]

i like Vasex, but I feel increasingly like there's a chance Vasex could just be highly skilled, under the radar scum. But maybe that's just paranoia. Overall probably on a par with Floo now (who is moving up to a townlean because feels just like low hanging fruit here and there isn't enough of a case to warrant the attention) - probably town, and wouldn't elim either of them today, but both worth consideration again if we end up in ExLo.

so list looks a bit like:

FBJim - strongly town

Vasex, Floo - Pretty good town

HUB, TRQ - Scumleans (1 scum here)

KittyTacky - Prime scum