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[OkaPoka]

tell me specific things that resonate with you jjh

[OkaPoka]

and let's establish the meaning of resonate, you mean agree with?

[jjh927]

I mean I understand exactly how she has reached the conclusions she has made

[mastina]

no its very clear what you meant. you meant you voted agar to save jjh. that's literally it.

And which of us is mastina, the person who wrote the post and who knows how mastina thinks?

Which of us can say better what it is that mastina meant?

Is it OkaPoka the player who is presenting a specific narrative that flies in the face of reality, or mastina the player who wrote the post?

I think I very well have a much better idea of what I meant, and it was not just to save jjh. It was partially to save jjh, sure! If it wasn't, I wouldn't have mentioned him. But if it was entirely to save jjh as you're insisting, I wouldn't have said AGar had a strong chance of flipping scum and I wouldn't have given my preference list in the first place. I would literally have gone "VOTE: AGar, to save jjh", maybe not that exact wording but pretty damn close. Ignoring that I have an entire iso basically all calling AGar scum and that most of my iso is calling jjh town and that AGar has consistently been my third-strongest scumread (but still being a scumread) and that in the post I acknowledged all three of these doesn't a reality make.

I voted AGar partially to save jjh, but also because AGar is, explicitly: a scumread, my third-strongest scumread and a scumread I have held as having a high chance of flipping scum since D2. He is not my preferred elimination (that'd be you, OkaPoka), because he's not my strongest scumread (that'd be you, OkaPoka), and thus, he's not the slot I think has the absolute highest chance of flipping scum (that'd be you, OkaPoka), but he is still a scumread, a scumread that has a wagon on him that (as Titus so rightly says) is fairly pure, and is thus a much better option to vote than a vanity vote on Bell, and an exponentially better wagon than jjh (who is town).

Being V/LA, busy, and distracted when making the post may mean that I didn't get to write this out all explicitly and in as much detail as would be ideal. But it is very clear that when I point to what I was saying, the meaning is there, especially given the backup of my game-long iso. Because to reiterate: nothing I said in 4868 was new to that post. Everything I said in that post, I can point to earlier posts in my iso (and many, MANY of them) to back that up: AGar being highly likely to flip scum; AGar as my third-strongest scumread; jjh being town; AGar being a better wagon than jjh.

The one and only thing I didn't mention was that I was moving off of a vanity vote wagon (which I admit, I did forget to mention even tho that was one of my reasons for the swap and it was in my head at the time of the vote swap). Which, while I might not have said (even though I was thinking it), the votecount at the time will say for me:

Vote Count 3.3

AGar

(3): Hopkirk, Almost50, Xtoxm

Winter Flakes

(2): Cephrir, jjh927

jjh927

(2): innocentvillager, OkaPoka

Bell

(1): mastina

I had read this votecount, saw that I was the only vote on Bell, saw there was a building AGar wagon, so decided to not vanity vote. So if you wanna say that I didn't mention I was hopping off of a vanity vote, I've no choice but to admit that, in my state of mind, yes, I did indeed forget to say that.

But the rest is very clearly there.

[jjh927]

Things resonate with something else when they are on the same wavelength

[OkaPoka]

elaborate with specific stuff please @jjh

[mastina]

jjh is town like hercule was town and xtoxm was town and abr was town or jjh is town because implosion told you.

Well it's not the former I'll tell you that.

[OkaPoka]

unless you literally mean everything in which case I'll start quoting specific things

[OkaPoka]

mastina your entire gameplay feels like maintaining plausible deniability. im going to hold your feet to the fire, do you have a mech clear on jjh?

[jjh927]

jjh dropped a surefire 100% towntell that guarantees he is town this game. But I admit: without explaining the tell, I'm not sure how to convince others that he is town. In order to explain why he's town I'd have to out the tell, but I don't want to because if I did he'd be the guaranteed nightkill tonight. (The tell is that strong.)

Mastina is undoubtedly the player with greatest awareness of my gameplay on site. I think there's maybe one thing and no more that I could put out that I don't think she'd catch that another player would

[OkaPoka]

So you think you've towntold this game?

[jjh927]

Not in a universal fashion, yet, but yes to a specific player

[OkaPoka]

can you explain what your towntell is?

[jjh927]

Nope

[jjh927]

Why is this inquisition helpful to anyone?

[OkaPoka]

No because you are unable to or don't want to?

[OkaPoka]

jjh if you talked about what you had for breakfast it'd be helpful to everyone because 'gestures to your iso'

[jjh927]

No because you are unable to or don't want to?

Two things can be true

[OkaPoka]

anything else that resonates with you?

[jjh927]

Can I ask you to stop

[jjh927]

Your whole angle here has quite overtly been to get Mastina or myself to say something more than needs saying

[OkaPoka]

I think it does need saying but I'm offering you a redirect to elaborate on something else

[mastina]

Your whole angle here has quite overtly been to get Mastina or myself to say something more than needs saying

Gee I wonder which alignment has incentive to do that?

Could it maybe be because OkaPoka is scum?

Just food for thought.

[OkaPoka]

Mastina prove me wrong then. I have my reasons that I'm perfectly willing to out and explain and everyone can cross examine my reasons for getting you to explicitly say whether you have hard cleared jjh or not.

[AGar]

jjh dropped a surefire 100% towntell that guarantees he is town this game. But I admit: without explaining the tell, I'm not sure how to convince others that he is town. In order to explain why he's town I'd have to out the tell, but I don't want to because if I did he'd be the guaranteed nightkill tonight. (The tell is that strong.)

Mastina is undoubtedly the player with greatest awareness of my gameplay on site. I think there's maybe one thing and no more that I could put out that I don't think she'd catch that another player would

This is self serving as

fuck

.