Mini Theme 2198: Animals Upick 2 [Game Over]

[Superb Subtlety]

When did I shade you?

[Smoke and Mirrors]

I have already answered this to the best of my ability, so I don’t understand how you reposting this 100 thousand more times is going to change my answer.

[Krazy]

Votecount 1.5

Whemestar(2)

~ Raya36(43), Rathe(12)

Rathe(1)

~ Mad Hatters Tea Party(39)

Korina(2)

~ Smoke and Mirrors(89), mastina(19)

Superb Subtlety(1)

~ Korina(57)

mastina(1)

~ Noraabear(53)

April Ludgate(1)

~ April Ludgate(15)

TheFuzzyLogic99(1)

~ , Whemestar(57)


Not Voting (4): Superb Subtlety(68), PenguinPower(66), TheFuzzylogic99(16), Battle Mage(20)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to FLIP.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-03-07 15:12:44)

FLAVOR

[Superb Subtlety]

I have already answered this to the best of my ability, so I don’t understand how you reposting this 100 thousand more times is going to change my answer.

I figure if I've actually shaded you, you would be able to quote me shading you, right?

So can you do that, please?

[Mad Hatters Tea Party]

Oh my oh my. This has certainly become interesting.

My townreads become confirmed, and some null reads begin to slip away, and some SvT shenanigans have been spotted.

VOTE: Superbly Unsubtle

[Mad Hatters Tea Party]

I am quite sad to see that Our King has dropped his restriction, but, the benefit is now that we should be able to establish a more accurate read upon their slot.

[Superb Subtlety]

Okay I guess you're next

[Superb Subtlety]

What makes this appear SvT here to you

[Superb Subtlety]

I logged into the hydra on my phone so I could post from work and you're all just gonna leave me hanging when I want to hyperpost?

[Raya36]

If S&M tells the truth they're probably a town role? I mean if this was a scum role it wouldn't make sense because scum don't want to give the prize to town, and it would be too obvious to always give the prize to your teammates, especially if you flip. Unless S&M are lying and know the prize always affects them so it wouldn't really matter who wins to some extent.

This is very poor logic and you should rethink it

I don't see the point of this being a scum role?

[Raya36]

King is saying if your actually tree stumped you changing your vote proves it by it not moving on the next vote count

If you want to miselim me when Krazy just literally told me I am not allowed to unvote Korina for the remainder of this day phase, that’s on you. I’m not disobeying Krazy.

I don't like the refusal to vote somewhere else to prove the prize

[Mad Hatters Tea Party]

Oh good, do you have tea or am I to be expected to provide my own?

Your approach to this reminds me of a rabid dog whom has found a meal. You do not seem to care for the responses being provided at all, nor do you seem to be considering the information that is being presented to you.

You have attempted an assault using metagame information, and when provided with a defence of the same nature you have denied it stating you dislike self meta. How else would you expect a defence to be mounted against such an assault? Your attack is based on information from other games and patterns you appear to have identified. The equivalent defence has been provided and you have dismissed it expecting an in-game defence of action.

While I will admit that simply having a moderator confirmed role aspect does not confirm alignment, for the sake of balancing I do not believe that would be a mafia aligned power; at least for now.

[Mad Hatters Tea Party]

Oh good, do you have tea or am I to be expected to provide my own?

Your approach to this reminds me of a rabid dog whom has found a meal. You do not seem to care for the responses being provided at all, nor do you seem to be considering the information that is being presented to you.

You have attempted an assault using metagame information, and when provided with a defence of the same nature you have denied it stating you dislike self meta. How else would you expect a defence to be mounted against such an assault? Your attack is based on information from other games and patterns you appear to have identified. The equivalent defence has been provided and you have dismissed it expecting an in-game defence of action.

While I will admit that simply having a moderator confirmed role aspect does not confirm alignment, for the sake of balancing I do not believe that would be a mafia aligned power; at least for now.

[Raya36]

Ask him what happens if you unvote

You’re right, I wouldn’t be modkilled, however my Koalawang role woud be cancelled.

Actually now I'm starting to doubt S&M. I don't believe this

[Mad Hatters Tea Party]

King is saying if your actually tree stumped you changing your vote proves it by it not moving on the next vote count

If you want to miselim me when Krazy just literally told me I am not allowed to unvote Korina for the remainder of this day phase, that’s on you. I’m not disobeying Krazy.

I don't like the refusal to vote somewhere else to prove the prize

Tomorrow will provide proof as I believe the prize will differ. They have stated voting elsewhere will negate their power and yet be counted. You either take them at their word, or you do not.

[Superb Subtlety]

If S&M tells the truth they're probably a town role? I mean if this was a scum role it wouldn't make sense because scum don't want to give the prize to town, and it would be too obvious to always give the prize to your teammates, especially if you flip. Unless S&M are lying and know the prize always affects them so it wouldn't really matter who wins to some extent.

This is very poor logic and you should rethink it

I don't see the point of this being a scum role?

The role is less of a utility role and more of a theatrical one
I see relatively equal benefit in it being town or scum from a purely mechanical pov


This aside, the actual logic you used is pretty poor and it should be noted that this is a theme game and strange roles will be present just because

[Superb Subtlety]

Oh good, do you have tea or am I to be expected to provide my own?

Your approach to this reminds me of a rabid dog whom has found a meal. You do not seem to care for the responses being provided at all, nor do you seem to be considering the information that is being presented to you.

You have attempted an assault using metagame information, and when provided with a defence of the same nature you have denied it stating you dislike self meta. How else would you expect a defence to be mounted against such an assault? Your attack is based on information from other games and patterns you appear to have identified. The equivalent defence has been provided and you have dismissed it expecting an in-game defence of action.

While I will admit that simply having a moderator confirmed role aspect does not confirm alignment, for the sake of balancing I do not believe that would be a mafia aligned power; at least for now.

You are correct in that I did not care for the responses provided because they didn't answer my question. But I strongly object to the imagery used and feel you may be intentionally misinterpreting what I have said (in stark contrast to Nancy honestly misinterpreting what I have said and my intentions with my line of questioning.)

Nancy was trying to push me to one conclusion while assuming I was at the other, when in reality I was deliberating, doing so at my own pace, and most importantly awaiting the answer to a question that has still not been answered satisfactorily. I have clearly laid out my expectations for an answer to that question. I expect quotes from myself where Nancy perceives an attack, because I think this will give me some key insight here and I'm not personally going to be satisfied as to the extent and meaning of Nancy's defensiveness here until I understand how she perceives the attack.

I don't really have a problem with Nancy's defence except that Nancy believes that it should immediately lead me to conclusion that she is town.

Do not rule out roles here. This looks like a game that is packed with net null VT-esque roles and I imagine the scumteam is too. The thing with net null roles is that they're basically interchangeable whether they are town or scum because of their minimal game impact.

[Superb Subtlety]

On a final note:
I'm not done pushing Nancy yet because I still don't have an answer to that question, but notionally Nancy is easiest to place by her reaction when someone has pushed her

[Raya36]

King is saying if your actually tree stumped you changing your vote proves it by it not moving on the next vote count

If you want to miselim me when Krazy just literally told me I am not allowed to unvote Korina for the remainder of this day phase, that’s on you. I’m not disobeying Krazy.

I don't like the refusal to vote somewhere else to prove the prize

Tomorrow will provide proof as I believe the prize will differ. They have stated voting elsewhere will negate their power and yet be counted. You either take them at their word, or you do not.

Guess there isn't much choice but to take their word for it today and hope tomorrow brings proof

[Raya36]

If S&M tells the truth they're probably a town role? I mean if this was a scum role it wouldn't make sense because scum don't want to give the prize to town, and it would be too obvious to always give the prize to your teammates, especially if you flip. Unless S&M are lying and know the prize always affects them so it wouldn't really matter who wins to some extent.

This is very poor logic and you should rethink it

I don't see the point of this being a scum role?

The role is less of a utility role and more of a theatrical one
I see relatively equal benefit in it being town or scum from a purely mechanical pov


This aside, the actual logic you used is pretty poor and it should be noted that this is a theme game and strange roles will be present just because

I'm probably just overthinking it then

[Superb Subtlety]

You do have the option of placing S&M by play instead of by role

[Superb Subtlety]

Wait, mhtp- could you xlaeify what you mean in terms of the role not being scum due to game balance?

[Superb Subtlety]

How new are you to the theme queue?

[Superb Subtlety]

Wait, mhtp- could you clarify what you mean in terms of the role not being scum due to game balance?

Ebwop, thank you phone posting

[Noraabear]

Lol tbh this bullshit reaction overall to my claim is just like conftowning me.

Basically what this game state says is that Korina could be scum trying to push me or just town doing it(I admit to this being a possibility despite me going off on Korina)
Aside from that, no one has pushed me for this VERY scummy claim.

You tell me why that is happening.

The reason is that scum don't know if they can/should push this claim and have ultimately decided not too.

But think about it. If I was a scum godfather, 1) my partners would always encourage me to not claim and 2) there 100% will be more hesitancy towards my claim because scum are very self conscious little creatures

The game state never looks like this if I am scum.