In post 1066, Vasex wrote:The right check is maybe to check HUB or BM, looking to the end of the game (and to hope Jim is not mafia; maybe he can be checked too, but he is townie almost to everyone so...). Floo and Kitty are not be checking in this game anymore, if it hasn't been already done, this will be the stupidest check ever.
I was kinda tempted to skip Vasex, but the level of certainty and the way he seems to be trying to direct night actions can sometimes come from power scum. That and I thought it was good to sanity check my read on this slot given the suspicions from flow trap and KT
In post 361, Vasex wrote:I don't know. I'm reading him again and again. Most of his posts can be townie, even the moment with PR (usually I have strong feelings what mafia cannot do easy and that thing about PR something from that stuff), but then I don't understand how he managed to get so bad vision of the players.
He acts like a troll, sometimes even like a player who definitely know what he is doing (remember I told about covering differences between townie and scum game? at last he know terms of the game well, much better than lazy me, and he has strong opinions about what is too early in the game, use terms like "mid-game" in analysis of players etc). And he is quite confident about his game, jokes about the game of others, gives rates to other players with ease.
But at the same time how he can get me scum with Ydrasse and you, HUB. This is something like the 1st level of newbie thinking: like if I openly play with HUB so we are mafia together, and if I played against flow trap with Ydrasse on the first page, so we are mafia together. So I'm totally confused in sum. And yeah he goes against people who voted him, right?
That's why it is better to know the experience of the players. But I play with zero notes for anybody. So what - to hang people for the biggest mistakes?
Maybe this strange position with confident play is a signal about mafia, but maybe he just sees the game very bad in the beginning or at all...
And I think I found a good "not a pair" between him and Jim. It could be a key.
In post 421, Vasex wrote:
No, I am James.
Because HUB and TRQ are my main townies in this game since now!
And you can be a scum. With floo, flow, jim, fairy etc. Kinky?
Now we need to understand who is the pokemon among all of you and who we need to catch first.
The first one probably will be here - Floo, Flow, Yadra.
Because I don't see strong willing to hang Jim or Fairy first among my townies.
Other positions of the players:
Kinky is scumreading Flow and Floo.
Ydra is scumreading Flow, Kinky and maybe Floo.
Jim is scumreading Ydra.
Flow is scumreading Ydra.
Floo is slowreading...
Fairy is not scumreading anybody. Ydra for her is "votey-baity" is it good or bad opinion for Ydra? Help me to translate.
I think Floo is a good option for the first execution.
I still find these thought processes hard to fake, the reread on FT, and the ability to keep track of where everyone suspects. It's clear that Vasex has previous mafia experience but the level of certainty he has right now feels more like power town than power scum even if he makes me nervous when he starts openly talking about cop checks (?) seems weird to me
I guess it's a reasonable inference that we're not in B given no one claimed a friendly neighbor reception, actually, but I'm not sure why we're talking about cop checks and not trackers, JKs, etc.?
I've also been trying to understand Vasex's POV on Jim so if I look through this (2-page) iso again it's probably going to be for specific interactions because I think I'm strongly inclined to townread him for tone/approach
