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[Dannflor]

I mean by one player

I'm more scum reading you based on reactions to April than whatever April was sring you for

[clidd]

Grechen, your frustration doesn't strike me as towny and I'm inclined to think that your claim is probably fake.

It's fine if you want to play your own way and have fun during the process, as that is the main purpose of the game, but that doesn’t mean that other people don’t have the right to suspect you, either because of you behavior or some interpersonal characteristic that you believe should be seen as nai.

I have the same impression that Dann commented. I can see when a player is suspecting me incorrectly and is town, but your way of dealing with our votes seemed too much like a scum ate and not an evaluative stance to know if we are town or scum pushing you.

[Klick]

We're not voting Gretchen today that's dumb

[clidd]

And yeah, I'm drastically different here. I'm aware of that.

Dann interpreted me correctly and Klick's assessment would probably be correct if I wasn't deliberately getting out of my ''town'' way of playing.

pedit: I'm comfortable with the vote atm, unless she starts to townspew.

[Dannflor]

We're not voting Gretchen today that's dumb

is it because of the claim

[Klick]

Mostly yeah
I'm also totally seeing the frustration argument from her perspective

[Dannflor]

meh I think it's fake and designed to make us let her live multiple nights

[April Ludgate]

tunneled on genuinely nai things

This put me over really, i wasn’t even really focusing on Gretchen, they were completely secondary.

Means they’re feeling the pressure and reacting poorly towards it, and i do think Dann has Towned it up in ways he wouldn’t if he were scum here.

not pressured by anything at all. just annoyed that you think i'm maf for literally having fun. that actually gets on my nerves

again, then you gotta see it bigger, i think everyone has a chance at being scum, these are day 1 reads.

if you're mad at people thinking you could be mafia on day 1, idk what to tell ya.

that's also 1 thing you got tunneled on, and now i'm more suspicious of you sticking on the one thing when your pushes and gamestate weaving was scummier than the first post.

However, if you are scum, that post I mentioned first, IS scum indicative, and it feels like you're scum who thinks that was a poor reason to scum read you, and are mad for it, which is actually a stronger reason based on that first reason and it created a chain reaction.

[April Ludgate]

but yeah, just so you know April, if you wanna know what killed my motivation and enthusiasm for this game, it was you saying that right at the start

this is like not my problem, i am allowed to have reads and post my thoughts if it's wrong, it's wrong, i'm not against the idea that it's wrong, but you've done nothing to make me feel like it is besides the "scum mad for being pushed for bad reasons" now in addition to the energy of everything you got going on

[April Ludgate]

yeah, that claim's fake.

If that was their role, they'd be fine with me having given them that suspicion cover.

Klick/Gretchen are paired

[April Ludgate]

Mostly yeah
I'm also totally seeing the frustration argument from her perspective

i very much think scumgretchen would be upset here based on just their posts from this game. i feel like town grtechen would just care less, especially because i wasn't pushing them at first


Also, Klick jumping onto Gretchen alongside Clidd, their main push, is insanely scummy.

Klick's trying to save partner Gretchen here.

I'm less sure on Geraint scum now, it feels almost as if Klick was trying to appeal to that.

[April Ludgate]

like no cop/detective who wasn't being pushed is going to be upset about the game for getting scum read by one person there, it actively makes it more likely they wouldn't be night killed. they decided on that claim when it was time for them to claim.

[HypoSoc]

See, yeah, compared to "late activated IC", Novice Detective IS something that makes sense for scum to claim.

Also, it feels like you made the claim pretty early... like, as town it's a role you want to keep secret. You weren't at risk of being hammered immediately (only E-2 at the time you made the claim, if I counted correctly), so why would you give up the town power role's anonymity so quickly?

Edit by way of preview: +1 to April's "frustrated scum" analysis

[April Ludgate]

im also like soul reading Dann as town somehow even though the others were scummy for me, and Clidd's post here has been good.

AliceK seemed super genuine as well. So that's kind of a town block im working with right now, which means gretchen was one of the only ones on the entrapta wagon i dont town read, so wagonomically, they make sense as scum here

[April Ludgate]

oh yeah, hyposac is a town read too

[April Ludgate]

i think e-2 is a fine time for them to claim, but i do think it is fake

[Klick]

I have a role that synergises with Gretchen's in such a way that makes me believe the claim is town.

Can we vote scum today?

[RLotus]

UNVOTE:

[bugspray]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

buspray
Amelie
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Klick
Mini
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April
Da Dude
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AliceK
Hyposoc
clidd
geraintm
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DGB
Grethcen

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VOTE: gretchen

this feels like someone dropping from a wagon that wasnt going anywhere to one that was gettign traction. don't like this

callint someone for changing wagons between their two biggest scumreadsn is such a fucking strech

[bugspray]

more frequent votecounds would be really nice

[Dannflor]

Fine

VOTE: geraintm

[bugspray]

fine what?

[bugspray]

why are you so begrudging

[bugspray]

amelie is way too townread rn thats my take

[bugspray]

really hot take: there are no scum in neighborhoods this game