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I'll reread Lotus's, midway's, and Elements' ISOs later today, as i think they were on the lower end of my town reads, but i might be confusing midway and andre[/quote]
I'll be interested to see what this brings upI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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I'll be interested to see what conclusions you draw from this ratherI'll reread Lotus's, midway's, and Elements' ISOs later today, as i think they were on the lower end of my town reads, but i might be confusing midway and andreI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald- Datisi
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lol, sorry about that. my point was never that rtp never suspected me, just that they didn't suspect me in the later part of d1. fwiw, i wouldn't intentionally make a dumbass easily-disproven argument as scum either, because it's stupid and easily disproven. i just forgot how big the "later" part is.In post 1838, Andresvmb wrote:
I’m skeptical that you have the game right, I don’t think Dunn will flip Scum, and I’m just generally annoyed that there’s so much... passivity in this game. I don’t have you as Scum right now. But I don’t like arguments that are easily disproven either. Trying to discredit me by making an argument that was false IS annoying. I am not just blindly going to follow along here. I want to see people be aggressive and push to figure out what’s going on. 6 votes so quickly on Dunn - does that seem like an engaged Town to you?In post 1834, Datisi wrote:ok so i was working under the assumption that you hating my smugness = scumreading it but now i'm confused. can you lay out what's your read on me right now?
that said i'm still not satisfied with your response. if you don't have me as scum, why was your reaction so (for a lack of a better word) sour in 1779 when talking about me?
midway do you have any readsIn post 1846, midwaybear wrote:I'm not sure. I actually voted him because I saw that he was a viable wagon from 1602.
I was still townreading Elements, and didn't really have an opinion on GC at the time.
has your opinion of lotus shifted in any way since yesterday?
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Well if you say so, then that must be correct. Thanks, I wasn't aware I was doing thatIn post 1849, Momrangal wrote:So, yes. You were getting ready to make a push against me with the amish tell in mind- Dunnstral
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You had a chance to vote him while a wagon was building there but chose to counter-wagon on me isnteadIn post 1799, VP Baltar wrote:
No I'm not saying I was scum reading midway. I'm saying that is one possible answer for Dunn's avoiding an inevitable wagon.In post 1794, Andresvmb wrote:
You said you were SR’ing Dunn and midwaybear. Today. But your explanation is something that literally didn’t happen. So what are you saying exactly?In post 1793, VP Baltar wrote:
You kidding? You know scum know who the town are, right?In post 1788, Andresvmb wrote:
Okay but Italiano flipped Town so how is this remotely relevant?In post 1786, VP Baltar wrote:Dunn's unexplained aversion to voting Italiano at that point pinged me at the time as him possibly voting a scum buddy for future town cred.- Dunnstral
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I don't really know why I'm being run up today anywayIn post 1838, Andresvmb wrote:
I’m skeptical that you have the game right, I don’t think Dunn will flip Scum, and I’m just generally annoyed that there’s so much... passivity in this game. I don’t have you as Scum right now. But I don’t like arguments that are easily disproven either. Trying to discredit me by making an argument that was false IS annoying. I am not just blindly going to follow along here. I want to see people be aggressive and push to figure out what’s going on. 6 votes so quickly on Dunn - does that seem like an engaged Town to you?In post 1834, Datisi wrote:ok so i was working under the assumption that you hating my smugness = scumreading it but now i'm confused. can you lay out what's your read on me right now?- VP Baltar
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In post 1856, Dunnstral wrote:You had a chance to vote him while a wagon was building there but chose to counter-wagon on me isnteadWaves hand at final vote countYOUR AD HERE- Dunnstral
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It's cherry picking
If you notice, I didn't have a whole lot to say throughout the entirety of day 1. Phrasing it as if I was doing something special around the italiano wagon is misleading - were you expecting me to be more engaged?- Dunnstral
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yes, yes i was actually
like i asked you, maybe even multiple times idr anymore, what are your thoughts / why they are the way they are
the one post i was able to find on italiano from you is that you townread them / didn't scumread them - i'd have expected to see some sorta conviction behind it if it were a real read?
it looks like you didn't really care about that wagon building (bc you did nothing to try to alter it) but jumped in at the very end of day to make sure to show you were not voting italiano
also like, the above post is kinda false?? like there were 5 votes on him, 6 if you count maxwell who was all but voting, and italiano implying he was gonna self-hammer. did you really think he was about to claim??
actually checking back, him saying he wasn't gonna claim happened *before* your vote on midway
so like
what's upI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Dunnstral
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I don't think he ever implied he was going to self hammer. Or if he did, I didn't see it
I didn't realize he was going to be stubborn enough to hammer himself instead of claiming
If he was going to sit at l-1 without claiming, that's something to talk about too (unless someone quickly hammers him)
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Again, it's cherry-picking, I wasn't following the thread closely enough to be deeply opposed to anything other than an elim on myself. I took a look while the wagon was forming and pointed out that I liked something he did, it's not my fault that nobody cared. I then started looking for scum and didn't like what midway was doing- Datisi
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In post 1707, ItalianoVD wrote:Aight I’m done. Make it happen max, so I can finally end this day.
it was literally a couple of posts above your vote on midwayIn post 1712, ItalianoVD wrote:
Not claiming.In post 1711, Datisi wrote:if he had something to claim, he would have already.
i don't think it's fair to say "not my fault nobody cared" when it's kinda obvious you didn't *try* to convince anyoneI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Datisi
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In post 1757, Datisi wrote:dunn, can i get a readslist or something from you?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- VP Baltar
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Look at the ending vote count for D1 and then reevaluate your statement.In post 1859, Dunnstral wrote:I'd prefer if you used your wordsYOUR AD HERE- Green Crayons
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i had too much to drink so im going to do this tomorrow i'll start with youuuuu <3In post 1853, Elements wrote:
I'll be interested to see what conclusions you draw from this ratherI'll reread Lotus's, midway's, and Elements' ISOs later today, as i think they were on the lower end of my town reads, but i might be confusing midway and andre"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).- VP Baltar
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Had you been looking for scum prior to then?In post 1864, Dunnstral wrote:I then started looking for scum and didn't like what midway was doingYOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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This is such a bad post, btw.In post 1796, Andresvmb wrote:Like how can you possibly know they’re both Scum? And that Dunn decided to land on midwaybear at the end of the day for “future Town cred”? Why are you so willing to give all of the early Italiano pushers a pass? Is it because you were one of them too?
I never said I know for a fact midway and dunn are scum. I offered a theory that I think makes a lot of sense. The shade at the end of your post is also completely unfounded. I never gave a free pass to people on that wagon, nor am I asking for a free pass. You're making an awful lot of innuendo with zero reason other than...
*Checks notes*
..I still think my top scum read is scum.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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Well we had replacements we were waiting on, so that's null.In post 1802, Andresvmb wrote:
You could make this point about literally anyone not voting Italiano at the end of the day.In post 1799, VP Baltar wrote:No I'm not saying I was scum reading midway. I'm saying that is one possible answer for Dunn's avoiding an inevitable wagon.
Of the people who showed up right at the end as the final hours of deadline ticked off, Dunn is the one who voted with very little reason on midway when it was obvious that wasn't going to happen.
It's not like Dunn was some Italiano stan all day. That would at least be a reasonable position then. But voting in a go nowhere spot as deadline looms and there is only one reasonably likely yeet for the day? Meh.YOUR AD HERE- VP Baltar
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I counter by asking you who else was a viable yeet? As someone who tried to get traction other places, I assure you it was not easy.In post 1810, Andresvmb wrote:The problem here is that everybody is looking at the game as if Italiano was the inevitable conclusion to the day
I think you're kind of full of shit with this outrage about a Dunn wagon. I don't mind someone making the argument we should hunt on the Italiano wagon, but you're not making good arguments WHY...other than "italiano flip green," which is pretty basic thinking about what may have gone down there.
That being said, I do think GC is the scummiest of that wagon probably, so I can criticize your vote necessarily.YOUR AD HERE- Dunnstral
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No response necessaryIn post 1867, VP Baltar wrote:
Look at the ending vote count for D1 and then reevaluate your statement.In post 1859, Dunnstral wrote:I'd prefer if you used your words- Dunnstral
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I don't feel good about making one right nowIn post 1866, Datisi wrote:In post 1757, Datisi wrote:dunn, can i get a readslist or something from you?
I think midway looks bad and vp baltar's push coming into day 2 looks bad
And that there's probably scum who jumped on me today - Dunnstral
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