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Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:03 pm

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I'm tired as hell and have had some bad news the past couple days, and I just don't feel like playing mafia tonight.

I was not roleblocked last night. I'm not sure my information is all that useful though.

I need to reread end of day, but I was concerned by Cakez and Pooky's interaction at the end of day yesterday. Mostly the whole "I will end you tomorrow" from Cakez and then after he claimed, he didn't know who to use it on and was taking suggestions, but if he suspected Pooky as much as he did, wouldn't he consider there? I did just start to try to reread through Mastina, and I'm not sure she tries to bronze cakez as her partner right out the gate that way. But i was also a bit surprised that Mastina just basically rolled over yesterday as scum; I don't remember that being her style.

Anyway I only got through the beginning of Mastina's iso and stopped. I'm tired and going to bed. See you guys tomorrow.
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Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:03 pm

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In post 2224, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2203, Spiffeh wrote:Sad about both night kills ;_;
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i did also think this when i saw it.
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Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:04 pm

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In post 2223, Battle Mage wrote:what happened to your tunnel on me math?
You’re in my PoE.
However I have much more consensus scum that are in my PoE to focus on.
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Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:06 pm

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In post 2220, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2218, Bell wrote:I am probably going to be an even worse Tyrant this day phase.
Sorry in advance.
What are you thinking?
Titus and Dunn Tmi'd by Mastina. Mastina had the right solution in front of her because Titus was town.
She weak defended you on purpose and tried to cover it up as the dunnstrall wagon being weak.

Prism town.
LLD town.
Sangres town.

Pooky, Cakez, up in the air. I don't think your two pokes are bad.
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Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:06 pm

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In post 2225, Tammy wrote:I'm tired as hell and have had some bad news the past couple days, and I just don't feel like playing mafia tonight.

I was not roleblocked last night. I'm not sure my information is all that useful though.

I need to reread end of day, but I was concerned by Cakez and Pooky's interaction at the end of day yesterday. Mostly the whole "I will end you tomorrow" from Cakez and then after he claimed, he didn't know who to use it on and was taking suggestions, but if he suspected Pooky as much as he did, wouldn't he consider there? I did just start to try to reread through Mastina, and I'm not sure she tries to bronze cakez as her partner right out the gate that way. But i was also a bit surprised that Mastina just basically rolled over yesterday as scum; I don't remember that being her style.

Anyway I only got through the beginning of Mastina's iso and stopped. I'm tired and going to bed. See you guys tomorrow.
Okay. I was either not shot at last night, or Tammy is scum.

Anyone else have proof that they weren't roleblocked last night?

The artefact I used last night, Raputin's Prayer Rope, prevents all kills on me for 1 night, but if I am successfully shot, all TOWN actions (not artefact abilities) are prevented that night.

so probably i just wasn't shot last night wiht 2 kills
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Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:08 pm

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Spiffeh town obv.

Not sure if scum PR saved by Mastina lim, but last two votes on Mast hard to fake tbh.
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Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:09 pm

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In post 2228, Bell wrote:
In post 2220, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2218, Bell wrote:I am probably going to be an even worse Tyrant this day phase.
Sorry in advance.
What are you thinking?
Titus and Dunn Tmi'd by Mastina. Mastina had the right solution in front of her because Titus was town.
She weak defended you on purpose and tried to cover it up as the dunnstrall wagon being weak.

Prism town.
LLD town.
Sangres town.

Pooky, Cakez, up in the air. I don't think your two pokes are bad.
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In post 2225, Tammy wrote:I'm tired as hell and have had some bad news the past couple days, and I just don't feel like playing mafia tonight.

I was not roleblocked last night. I'm not sure my information is all that useful though.

I need to reread end of day, but I was concerned by Cakez and Pooky's interaction at the end of day yesterday. Mostly the whole "I will end you tomorrow" from Cakez and then after he claimed, he didn't know who to use it on and was taking suggestions, but if he suspected Pooky as much as he did, wouldn't he consider there? I did just start to try to reread through Mastina, and I'm not sure she tries to bronze cakez as her partner right out the gate that way. But i was also a bit surprised that Mastina just basically rolled over yesterday as scum; I don't remember that being her style.

Anyway I only got through the beginning of Mastina's iso and stopped. I'm tired and going to bed. See you guys tomorrow.
Okay. I was either not shot at last night, or Tammy is scum.

Anyone else have proof that they weren't roleblocked last night?

The artefact I used last night, Raputin's Prayer Rope, prevents all kills on me for 1 night, but if I am successfully shot, all TOWN actions (not artefact abilities) are prevented that night.

so probably i just wasn't shot last night wiht 2 kills
If I am right on scum you weren’t shot.

I have been laying fake mason buddy trails for scum along with the real ones :)

Mason cover is fun.

I wish I was scum then I would probably win :(
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Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:13 pm

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In post 2230, Bell wrote:Spiffeh town obv.

Not sure if scum PR saved by Mastina lim, but last two votes on Mast hard to fake tbh.
That’s where I am thinking
Mastina burns her cred to protect Titus PR

Scum want me dead because I have a bias towards Titus and Mastina scum
So they take advantage of LLD’s bs reason and never give any of their own.
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Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:14 pm

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In post 2212, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:SHE WAS LITERALLY TRYING TO MASTINA PROTOCOL ME OUT OF THE GAME AND IM LOOKING BAD ROFL GOOD JOKE SPIFFEH
what do you mean by this? all she did was call you town the entire game.
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Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:15 pm

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In post 2233, Tammy wrote:what do you mean by this? all she did was call you town the entire game.
you know what standard mastina protocol is!!
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Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:16 pm

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In post 2229, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2225, Tammy wrote:I'm tired as hell and have had some bad news the past couple days, and I just don't feel like playing mafia tonight.

I was not roleblocked last night. I'm not sure my information is all that useful though.

I need to reread end of day, but I was concerned by Cakez and Pooky's interaction at the end of day yesterday. Mostly the whole "I will end you tomorrow" from Cakez and then after he claimed, he didn't know who to use it on and was taking suggestions, but if he suspected Pooky as much as he did, wouldn't he consider there? I did just start to try to reread through Mastina, and I'm not sure she tries to bronze cakez as her partner right out the gate that way. But i was also a bit surprised that Mastina just basically rolled over yesterday as scum; I don't remember that being her style.

Anyway I only got through the beginning of Mastina's iso and stopped. I'm tired and going to bed. See you guys tomorrow.
Okay. I was either not shot at last night, or Tammy is scum.

Anyone else have proof that they weren't roleblocked last night?

The artefact I used last night, Raputin's Prayer Rope, prevents all kills on me for 1 night, but if I am successfully shot, all TOWN actions (not artefact abilities) are prevented that night.

so probably i just wasn't shot last night wiht 2 kills
You weren't shot then.

I didn't expect you to be though. You were the obvious protect last night, which probably means they don't have a strong man power right now.
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Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:17 pm

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In post 2234, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2233, Tammy wrote:what do you mean by this? all she did was call you town the entire game.
you know what standard mastina protocol is!!
No, you said she was trying to get you out of the game but she only called you town. So that does not compute.
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Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:18 pm

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In post 2234, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2233, Tammy wrote:what do you mean by this? all she did was call you town the entire game.
you know what standard mastina protocol is!!
Bee boop

Running calculations:

This computes!

Pooky is town people.
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Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:21 pm

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In post 2228, Bell wrote:
In post 2220, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2218, Bell wrote:I am probably going to be an even worse Tyrant this day phase.
Sorry in advance.
What are you thinking?
Titus and Dunn Tmi'd by Mastina. Mastina had the right solution in front of her because Titus was town.
She weak defended you on purpose and tried to cover it up as the dunnstrall wagon being weak.

Prism town.
LLD town.
Sangres town.

Pooky, Cakez, up in the air. I don't think your two pokes are bad.

Can you further explain how you are seeing TMI on me/Titus?
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Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:21 pm

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I did a search. I understand.

Come back to process what I think of it tomorrow after sleep.
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Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:24 pm

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In post 2239, Tammy wrote:I did a search. I understand.

Come back to process what I think of it tomorrow after sleep.
I did a search.

It says if deep wolf > 0 probability Tammy 66%

Probability deep wolf 50%

Total probability 33%

Would elim pile for you Tammy
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Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:25 pm

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In post 2240, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2239, Tammy wrote:I did a search. I understand.

Come back to process what I think of it tomorrow after sleep.
I did a search.

It says if deep wolf > 0 probability Tammy 66%

Probability deep wolf 50%

Total probability 33%

Would elim pile for you Tammy
translate?
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Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:26 pm

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In post 2211, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2202, Prism wrote:You are intelligent and a valued human being. My opinion of your play in a mafia game, and the fact that I do not want you to have the artifact today, does not change this. It is okay to be upset by that opinion, but I want to make the first sentence very clear. This is not passive aggressive and is 100% sincere.
I respect and admire your bravery in being able to say this with a straight face.

I also admit some concern that you can actively say the things you have said and not understand that it appears to only require one brain cell to pass an artefact to a hidden confirmed townie.

And yet you do not trust me to be able to perform that action.

But perhaps my lack of having more than 2 of such cells is keeping me from understanding how a comment like that could be taken any other way except than "you are too stupid/too egocentric and won't pass a town power to a townie creating more town power."

when my whole role is "passing artefacts to players i think/know are town until i die"
Right now, with your claim, there is some grey area as to whether or not you can accomplish your plan. I don't really want to fish for day/night usage but it might be required, because this seems to only work if one of the two artifacts can be used during the dayphase. You are restricted to one artifact use/handoff per gamephase, with passing only available at night.

ie. If both the comb and the snowglobe are restricted to night usage, you will only be able to pass one while the other goes unused and/or dies with you.

Before we got into the slapfight, I would have preferred to have the artifact over you to spread around/knowing I am town makes it not a big deal anyway and serves to hedge risk. You threatening to policybronze me elicited the much stronger and more visceral reaction. I absolutely could have done better at not feeding into it, as others alluded to. You are not the only one who can be irritable for outside reasons; I have lost 12 pounds in the last three weeks, and not because I wanted to.

I don't think mafia skill and intelligence are correlated. That said, with my town w/r, it might be, and this is a tangent in any case. While I happen to think you are fully intelligent and not at all stupid, I also don't think my opinion should weigh heavily. My opinion changes nothing about what you are capable of or have accomplished.
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Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:27 pm

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In post 2241, Tammy wrote:
In post 2240, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2239, Tammy wrote:I did a search. I understand.

Come back to process what I think of it tomorrow after sleep.
I did a search.

It says if deep wolf > 0 probability Tammy 66%

Probability deep wolf 50%

Total probability 33%

Would elim pile for you Tammy
translate?
I am scared of you being a deep wolf, so you’re not in my don’t touch block.
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Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:28 pm

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the comb is literally useless and not worth using?

it literally makes 1 player need 1 more vote to bronze
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Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:31 pm

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In post 2243, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2241, Tammy wrote:
In post 2240, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2239, Tammy wrote:I did a search. I understand.

Come back to process what I think of it tomorrow after sleep.
I did a search.

It says if deep wolf > 0 probability Tammy 66%

Probability deep wolf 50%

Total probability 33%

Would elim pile for you Tammy
translate?
I am scared of you being a deep wolf, so you’re not in my don’t touch block.
I'm flattered!

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Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:33 pm

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Said my peace artifact should go to LLD

Tammy’s last post pings hard but Titus or Dunn are better today.
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Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:33 pm

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Fair enough. I don't think the mason partner outing was an empty threat (ie. mafia) so sure. I also don't want to spend 30 pages on the artifact today.

VOTE: LLD
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Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:34 pm

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In post 2244, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:the comb is literally useless and not worth using?

it literally makes 1 player need 1 more vote to bronze
But if you already have artifacts, you still can't use and pass during the night.

On the one hand, I don't quite care if you hoard them. It makes my job easier when trying to see who's using them. Although we know who's getting them, so never mind this thought.
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Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:35 pm

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I think Bell would also be a very good vote for the artifact in the event we do decide not to give it to LLD.
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