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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:40 am

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Zac...appears to be trying to distract us but I'm not sure if it's because he's new or because he just slipped as scum. I gotta admit I agree with an
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:49 am

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Zac...appears to be trying to distract us but I'm not sure if it's because he's new or because he just slipped as scum. I gotta admit I agree with an FoS:Zac.
Actually, not sure on the distraction thing. I'm leaning more OMGUS to being questioned.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:13 am

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OMGUS when iam didn't even mention Zac? It's almost a chainsaw to iam for daring to question MBP :S.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:16 am

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Xtoxm wrote:
- Both of you: When can you send in the target of your investigation, and when do you get the result?
Anytime during the day, before a lynch has been reached. I get the result right away. (With mod delay obv)
- Does it, anywhere in your roles, explicitly state that you detect scum and/or that you are cops?
Cop yes, scum no, though I find it hard to believe Shinra =/= Scum.
- Are there any other restrictions or defining features that can help distinguish your role from "normal" cops and/or someone faking? Not counting formatting or anything else you shouldn't be quoting.
Well other than the Daytime thing, not that comes to mind no.
Alrighty. ABR, same questions, please. Plus the other one I asked.
Cavebear wrote:- ABR: I'm a bit confused by your claim. Do you detect raised levels of Mako energy or Jenova cells? From what I remember/could find on FFVII, Jenova cells and Mako, this isn't the same thing (from what I understand, everyone with Jenova cells would have higher Mako rates, but higher Mako rates doesn't imply Jenova cells.)
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:18 am

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Would have to be a very rookie move to react that badly to scum-mate getting even a tiny bit of mild questioning. The panic makes me wonder if they have connected roles in another way instead - Lovers maybe?

Still, very FOS worthy move.
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:23 am

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Would have to be a very rookie move to react that badly to scum-mate getting even a tiny bit of mild questioning.
Except Zac fell into said group that IAUN was questioning.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:23 am

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Except Zac fell into said group that IAUN was questioning.
Ah, true nuff. But it's still an odd reaction when it's a simple question :S.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:25 am

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But it's still an odd reaction when it's a simple question :S.
I agree, hence the FOS.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:10 am

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I think we should wait a bit and let those thaty have been asked questions, answer them.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:37 am

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Catching up today.

I was busy yesterday.

Don't worry :D!
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:05 am

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asdfasdfasdf
Armlx wrote:This is a bad assumption.
It was for the purpose of argument.

@Zac: ???

A queer response...

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I still need ABR to answer before I give my thoughts - I don't want to give him any ideas.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:10 am

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christiano drago wrote:Would have to be a very rookie move to react that badly to scum-mate getting even a tiny bit of mild questioning. The panic makes me wonder if they have connected roles in another way instead - Lovers maybe?
YES LET'S SPECULATE ABOUT WHO HAS WHAT TOWN ROLES THAT IS A VERY GOOD IDEA
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:11 am

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Umm, that's definitely not a case of that IAUN.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:20 am

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What? How is "I think they could be Lovers" not speculating about town roles?
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:25 am

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What? How is "I think they could be Lovers" not speculating about town roles?
He's justifying a pattern, and lovers isn't the most high profile role to be digging at....
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:00 am

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The only "lover" type roles i could think of in FF7 would be:

Aeris - Cloud
Aeris - Zack
Tifa - Cloud
Sephiroth - Jenova (not lovers obviously but could be adapted)
Kadaj - Jenova (???)

In any case, I doubt any of these characters would have a lover "clause" in them anyway, I think they'd be destined for greater things, (I'd hate for one of them to be just a lover role). I'm personally going to rule out the lover theory. I still have no idea why Zac would do what he did though...
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:01 am

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That said, Bundenhagen is definitely not in a lover role, so if the lover theory were there, it would be to protect armlx and not xtoxm.

I personally think it's a slip as a scum, but I'll let Zac have a chance to explain himself.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:07 am

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iamausername wrote:
christiano drago wrote:Would have to be a very rookie move to react that badly to scum-mate getting even a tiny bit of mild questioning. The panic makes me wonder if they have connected roles in another way instead - Lovers maybe?
YES LET'S SPECULATE ABOUT WHO HAS WHAT TOWN ROLES THAT IS A VERY GOOD IDEA
In the immortal words of someone, somewhere - calm down, dear.

The question mark was a subtle way of saying "What do the rest of you think of this idea?".

But hey, you shout about it. That'll help matters.

Perhaps it's just me but I like to try and figure out as much as I can about town and maf roles in every game.
Iamusername wrote:What? How is "I think they could be Lovers" not speculating about town roles?
Putting words in my mouth much?
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"Lovers maybe?" =/= "I think they could be Lovers."



ABR needs to answer those questions asap, in my opinion.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:16 am

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Cludsy wrote:The only "lover" type roles i could think of in FF7 would be:

Aeris - Cloud
Aeris - Zack
Tifa - Cloud
Sephiroth - Jenova (not lovers obviously but could be adapted)
Kadaj - Jenova (???)

In any case, I doubt any of these characters would have a lover "clause" in them anyway, I think they'd be destined for greater things, (I'd hate for one of them to be just a lover role). I'm personally going to rule out the lover theory. I still have no idea why Zac would do what he did though...
There are other potential adaptations if we're using the Advent Children Chars and even if we're not. Also it's be interesting to see what kind of role Cait Sith has.

I'd Speculate that Aeris has a very Modified role myself, a Princess/Lover/Healer role in one.

Also I'd like to hear some of the Game Fans thoughts on the idea of Bundenhagen as a Day Cop. I said earlier it was an outside possibility but I really don't see him fitting in to an investigative role in this. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:21 am

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I actually think Bugenhagen could be his real rolename (randomly hitting German Philosopher would be an insane coincidence otherwise).
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:31 am

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christiano drago wrote:
Cludsy wrote:The only "lover" type roles i could think of in FF7 would be:

Aeris - Cloud
Aeris - Zack
Tifa - Cloud
Sephiroth - Jenova (not lovers obviously but could be adapted)
Kadaj - Jenova (???)

In any case, I doubt any of these characters would have a lover "clause" in them anyway, I think they'd be destined for greater things, (I'd hate for one of them to be just a lover role). I'm personally going to rule out the lover theory. I still have no idea why Zac would do what he did though...
There are other potential adaptations if we're using the Advent Children Chars and even if we're not. Also it's be interesting to see what kind of role Cait Sith has.

I'd Speculate that Aeris has a very Modified role myself, a Princess/Lover/Healer role in one.

Also I'd like to hear some of the Game Fans thoughts on the idea of Bundenhagen as a Day Cop. I said earlier it was an outside possibility but I really don't see him fitting in to an investigative role in this. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Now that's setup speculation.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:38 am

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iLord wrote:I actually think Bugenhagen could be his real rolename (randomly hitting German Philosopher would be an insane coincidence otherwise).
Good point... At first I had put this down to good research but someone else would have claimed Bug by now if it was false, surely.
empking wrote:Now that's setup speculation.
Do you mean that I have set up a stance where we can start to get an idea of what characters can do what? I'll refine my post then.

What I mean is that i feel Aeris [and many other central characters] have too much to them to be covered by one role in the game, so I don't think we should really be really ruling out much in the way of the main players links/abilities.

Further down the cast to the supporting roles, yeah, I could see them being pretty basic, but I don't see the top roles sitting on simple Vigilante or anything like that.

Hope this clears things up.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:41 am

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See, what cludsy did was speculation. No one respond to his post. Oh, and what CD said about Aeris. That kind of posting does nothing to help us.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:48 am

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Apologies. I'm still kind of new to this, heh.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:54 am

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Xtoxm wrote:
- Both of you: When can you send in the target of your investigation, and when do you get the result?
Anytime during the day, before a lynch has been reached. I get the result right away. (With mod delay obv)
- Does it, anywhere in your roles, explicitly state that you detect scum and/or that you are cops?
Cop yes, scum no, though I find it hard to believe Shinra =/= Scum.
- Are there any other restrictions or defining features that can help distinguish your role from "normal" cops and/or someone faking? Not counting formatting or anything else you shouldn't be quoting.
Well other than the Daytime thing, not that comes to mind no.

My activity will be down a lot now, btw.
Same. My PM implies that I detect scum.
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