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[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m literally not attacking him at all

You just said you scumread my post so i don't know why you're making it seem like you never attacked me in the first place.

EBWOP

[Luca Blight]

being scumread is an attack, no?

Read again, he said he saw me as a threat before I SR him

[Alisae]

being scumread is an attack, no?

Read again, he said he saw me as a threat before I SR him

I don't care enough to do that tbh.
I'm not saying that you're right or you're wrong or that he's right or that he's wrong
You just asked why is he reacting this way and I'm telling you why. I don't think there's anything you can tell me that would convince me that this reaction is unusual for norwee.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That was more of an joke, i’m referring to your post about scumreading my catch up post.
Which is for what reason btw?

[Luca Blight]

I just don’t get that reaction coming from town!you.

I’d expect you to do your thing and see how I read you, not immediately go on the defensive as if you expect me to scumread you

[Luca Blight]

It’s like you’re worried, which again I don’t get if you’re Town.

[Alisae]

tbh I regret posting

[Alisae]

shoulda just read and kept my thoughts to myself
/me sigh

[Farkran]

@S_S, no it would still be foolish to do it as scum right after doing it in front of someone who caught you for it and knows you just did that as scum

That's definitely not true when it comes to extremely ordinary behaviors that people do every game. Like, hey look, I'm playing devil's advocate. I did that the last time I was scum against you, wouldn't it be foolish for me to do it here as scum? No, because it's what I always do.

There probably are times where it is true, especially for more self-conscious players, but this seems pretty typical of her personality which makes me doubt it in this case.

This kind of reasoning rings town - like, it sounds too in-depth to be faked if coming from scum.

Also i kinda agree wrt ydrasse, i have yet to fully catchup but she seems to be playing the same town game we ended just recently (although i was scum in there so i didn't exactly have to *sort* her)

PEDIT: HI ALISAE LET ME CATCHUP AND I'LL GIVE YOU LOVE

[Farkran]

But the key thing here for me is not the fact that it looks so similar, but that she got really, really defensive when i called her out on it

fwiw i don't think she actually got a chance to react as scum in that FL vs. Hectic game, but in the game i just modded with Ydrasse-town recently, she reacted fairly loudly when suspicion went her way.

i don't think Ydrasse's reaction to the suspicion is AI. i just saw her react similarly in a recent towngame.

[Farkran]

But the key thing here for me is not the fact that it looks so similar, but that she got really, really defensive when i called her out on it

fwiw i don't think she actually got a chance to react as scum in that FL vs. Hectic game, but in the game i just modded with Ydrasse-town recently, she reacted fairly loudly when suspicion went her way.

i don't think Ydrasse's reaction to the suspicion is AI. i just saw her react similarly in a recent towngame.

I pressed submit instead of previewing the multiquote

I meant to ask, Chara, how did you progress from first post to second? Like - you seem to be disagreeing with skitter, lucy and pooky wrt the loudness of ydrasse's reaction (388 and onwards), but then you say it's nai?

[Luca Blight]

I also dislike Norwegian’s points on Suji

I don’t think getting the game out of RVS warrants Town points, that’s just really shallow

And I’m not SR’ing him for being stilted - that is the counter-argument. I’m sr’ing him for forcing content

[Alisae]

PEDIT: HI ALISAE LET ME CATCHUP AND I'LL GIVE YOU LOVE

Hello Farkran my old friend

[Alisae]

Really tho when Farkran joins a game people be like:

[Farkran]

like im just

i feel super frustrated already w this game which is dumb but it feels like I Do Not Get To Have Fun Playing this one + i dont get to play how i want to (read, fun bc i really like this player list) and it will take me flipping town for people to see it's not AI for me to act like this i guess, idk

I do notice a higher level of frustration coming from you though and i have to agree with skitter that you were quicker to attack your attackers in the last game

Can you explain where's the difference between, say, skitter and costello/flea?

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s like you’re worried, which again I don’t get if you’re Town.

Your words, not mine.

[Farkran]

Ydrasse's indignation and defensiveness feels like she's more upset at not being able to have fun because she's getting scumread for it, meaning it wasn't some ploy or alignment based plan in the first place. I think the playstyle is probably not dependent on her alignment based on her reaction.

I want to take note of this because i don't like the timing and content of this post when compared to day's introduction

Like, he promised a catchup read but this feels a bit lackluster - as if he just picked one of two sides (ydratown vs ydrascum) and offered the general consensus produced by his side rather than independent opinion

@day how much experience do you have with ydrasse?

[Farkran]

VOTE: Sujimichi

I think this is a good place to start.

Reason:

He seems to be forcing content rather than organically forming thoughts.

I like this push, even though my experience with sujimichi says he's way harder to read than this

[Farkran]

VOTE: Sujimichi

Eh i don't like this at all though

I am probably voting here unless by the end of my catchup i notice something shocking

[Farkran]

VOTE: Suji

See Ydra

I do adore you.

I don't want to kill you

even though I think you could be bad.

It's fine.

I am perfectly happy with you living. :3

Games are more fun when everyone has fun!

This is a bit shocking though

You had just made a post accusing ydrasse and then join against suji? Why?

[Farkran]

Hello everyone

I am seriously surprised that almost the entire plist is in my friend list, i love you all!

Hello again chara ydrasse and alisae, long time no see SS menalque skitter norwegian and suji, and nice to meet you to the others

It's amazing how coming back to ms revives so many memories

hello sir its good to see you again

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The evidence is overwhelming

I just need to find their third partner

its probably someone who hasn't posted yet

Alisae

there we go

Alisae-Ydrasse-Hectic

HEWOOOSOLVE

True I would def tell Ydra and Hectic to bus me so they could have some privacy.
And also so that they don't have to deal with me

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I am a

vanilla townie

I would never do something like

lie

about my role

As I am aligned with the

town

faction i am planning to do

not very much

and to allow the

good players

present to carry me to an easy

victory

Thank you all for your

time

VOTE: mena
no idea why this is happening if ur a villager.
very weirdchamp.

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Ok i don't care about pocketing anymore, i want a date with ydrasse

Also VOTE: alisae you're late to the party and i miss you

Ya I was asleep and I also decided not to post anything until ywall were done so that catching up is easier.
i miss you too sir yes sir

Alisae is town e isn't fucking with me

[Farkran]

Sujimichi seemed to be trying very hard to escape RVS from early on so townpoints for that.
Skitter pushing Ydrasse scumread early pings mildly town.
Chara bringing up specific meta example on Ydrasse also townish.
Ydrasse emotional reaction to being pushed is not something i will base my read on her on, AtE lame.
Post 477 very town.
481, sure. But can we trust your judgement to be unbiased? I don't townread you yet so i see this as a huge threat. Fite me bro.
497, If Sujimichi's supposedly stilted posts are "all of them" it means they could just be what you see as awkward sounding at all times. This is also proved by you claiming he was stilted in a previous game.

WTF IS HAPPENING I TOWNREAD NORWEGIAN

[Farkran]

Very early and shitty reads list

Town
- Day

Townping
- Sujimichi
- skitter30
- Chara

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Ydrasse
- Something_Smart
- Luca Blight
- PookyTheMagicalBear
- Menalque
- Farkran
- Alisae
- LegoLucy

This Day as top townread is meh though

I think you are wrong, can you explain to me why you are not wrong?

Because i think we are almost on the same page with the other reads so far (i do have higher townleans on some people but nothing strong), although Day is probably my best elim candidate rn

[Luca Blight]

Do you TR Suji, Farkran? If so, why?

[Farkran]

Ok i'm caught up

I want an opinion on menalque and day from everyone, please

Because i want to vote day but i can entertain a menalque wagon with alisae

Pedit wrt suji: absolutely not, but my opinion is that he has done absolutely nothing to earn a scumread, much less being the top wagon