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[NorwegianboyEE]

I think you are wrong, can you explain to me why you are not wrong?

I could be wrong, my reads are not final by any means. But i don't see their posts as scummy. Not faulting you if you do, but i'd need to be convinced because there are scummier slots right now.

[Alisae]

I'd probably also be okay with killing pooky tbh

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes, Pooky is having too much fun. Truly an terrifying notion.

[Farkran]

I think you are wrong, can you explain to me why you are not wrong?

I could be wrong, my reads are not final by any means. But i don't see their posts as scummy. Not faulting you if you do, but i'd need to be convinced because there are scummier slots right now.

I believe you are talking about pooky? Or would you include someone else?

If so, what's scummier from them than my read on Day?

[Alisae]

pooky feels like he has an agenda and its scummy

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think you are wrong, can you explain to me why you are not wrong?

I could be wrong, my reads are not final by any means. But i don't see their posts as scummy. Not faulting you if you do, but i'd need to be convinced because there are scummier slots right now.

I believe you are talking about pooky? Or would you include someone else?

If so, what's scummier from them than my read on Day?

I think Pooky is acting like scum with their "fun takes" on Ydrasse/Hectic scum team and then seemingly switching to Sujimichi like it ain't no thing.
Like they are trying to act super friendly, but in an unnatural way. And then their Suji vote solidifies how it all just feels fake.

[Alisae]

ya idunno maybe i should just vote it
VOTE: pooky

[Farkran]

Yeah, that ringed wrong to me too, but like... too wrong to be scummy?

+ i have been townleaning pooky for his earlier posts

I can relate to your position but don't understand why day is less scummy

[Farkran]

VOTE: day moving my vote to somewhere useful

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah, that ringed wrong to me too, but like... too wrong to be scummy?

+ i have been townleaning pooky for his earlier posts

I can relate to your position but don't understand why day is less scummy

I'm in the opposite position where i don't see the reasoning behind why Day is more scummy but i would like to understand why you believe this.
Can you go more in depth behind your scumread on Day?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I dunno why you vibing so much with me Alisae, that seems rather rare. But i'm not complaining.

[Alisae]

cuz we're double the trouble

[Farkran]

Yeah, that ringed wrong to me too, but like... too wrong to be scummy?

+ i have been townleaning pooky for his earlier posts

I can relate to your position but don't understand why day is less scummy

I'm in the opposite position where i don't see the reasoning behind why Day is more scummy but i would like to understand why you believe this.
Can you go more in depth behind your scumread on Day?

See 566 and 568

The defense on ydrasse sounds poor effort/fake, and that vote on suji doesn't make sense for anyone who played with suji in the past

Like, Luca's original push sounded true and by how he described his take it seems that he doesn't know suji. Day's vote on the other hand is empty and low effort at best, gets worse if he knows suji

Which is also why i am surprised by pooky

[NorwegianboyEE]

The defense on ydrasse sounds poor effort/fake

I don't think it was intended as a defense of Ydrasse at all, just saying that scumreading or townreading them based on their reaction is likely to be a bad path to follow. Which i think is a good point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

that vote on suji doesn't make sense for anyone who played with suji in the past

I don't think you would be knowledgeable enough about Day to make this sort of decision about whether an vote on Suji at this point is scum indicative for them.

[Luca Blight]

@Farkran

I played with Suji ages ago (we were both Town) but I don’t remember finding him particularly scummy for the most part. I’ll have to review it again but I’m sure he didn’t play like this at the start of the game.

You’re making it seem like he is immune from being pushed based on meta. Like what can he be scumread for? Can you at least go into more detail on your meta read to help me understand your PoV

[Alisae]

fark u need anything else from me or am i good to call it a night

[Farkran]

It's not that i particularly disagree with the comment he made, it's how and when he made it that pings me

I do want more feedback on this from other people

pedit: the whole point is about how Day positioned, not if he is correct or not. I want to hear more from Day too.

pedit2: i think you can call it a night Ali, we'll resume later after other ppl speak, i'm about to take a break too

[NorwegianboyEE]

Both Day and Pooky voted Suji, but Pooky's vote seems more opportunistic than Day. Day said they thought Luca's read wasn't fake and thusly followed up with an vote on Suji.
Again, it's early and either one of us could be on the right or wrong path here. But i'm seeing Pooky's read development as overall more scummy than Day. And i also scumread Pooky more by their tone, Day i'm not that familiar with but i trust them more than other slots at this point.
It's also of note that Pooky voted Suji later than Day did, while Day's vote seemed more spontaneous/natural, conclusively it does not seem to have been an calculated decision from Day.

[Alisae]

cool

[Luca Blight]

I just quickly skimmed over that game with Suji and he seemed much more natural at the start of the day, so unless someone can provide actual relevant meta then I’m not buying it.

It was an open so maybe a bit more up his street? But still it wasn’t like he was faking anything

[Farkran]

@Farkran

I played with Suji ages ago (we were both Town) but I don’t remember finding him particularly scummy for the most part. I’ll have to review it again but I’m sure he didn’t play like this at the start of the game.

You’re making it seem like he is immune from being pushed based on meta. Like what can he be scumread for? Can you at least go into more detail on your meta read to help me understand your PoV

Well, that's a bit of an extreme but yeah i think you cannot *easily* read suji based on meta

I played two games with him, both times he was town wheras i was 1 town 1 scum. My memory of his plays are not different than the plays here, his tone and effort are the same from what i can recall.

[Luca Blight]

Ok great, let’s not read him based on meta then.

I think he’s been scummy in this game and warrants pushing. I don’t like how much he’s been defended before he’s even returned to the thread

[skitter30]

I don't really like any of ali's takes

[Farkran]

Note that i'm not defending suji as much as i am analyzing the reasons behind him being pushed up to top wagon rn

I find that more concerning than the people defending him (mostly ali and norwee whom i townlean atm), but at the same time i feel your push is sincere, Luca. I want to hear from both pooky and day about theirs.

Pedit @skit: please elaborate on ali?

Yeah i'll let you guys talk for a while now, i'm taking a break unless questioned