In post 5453, jjh927 wrote:By the way, Mastina, if I'd have tried to get you to claim my role/results, would you have done it?
IF there was a way for us to get away with it, I might've considered it, but it wasn't possible: I was defending you in a way suggesting a PR result, so there wasn't a realistic way for me to claim the Hopkirk result.
In post 5445, jjh927 wrote:Still thought that, given my positive result on hopkirk, that there probably aren't any more PRs and I can functionally be a cop
Fair enough and not wrong.
Granted today with an innocent I'd be voting one of {AGar, Oka} anyway tho.
Correct. And OkaPoka's reaction is a scumclaim in of itself, aside from the roleclaim itself being a scumclaim. Not to mention Oka's been scum by play the entire game and was part of the hard-force onto the Bell counterwagon of Titus.
1: In years upon years of setup review, I know for a fact that OkaPoka's claim is fundamentally flawed in a way that makes it 100% definitely not a real town role. There's multiple, fundimental, issues with the claim.
2: Setup speculation beyond the above--I am pretty sure that we can have one additional town power role beyond jjh and Almost50. We shouldn't have TWO extras. With Hopkirk as the additional PR, OkaPoka would be scum.
3: Oka's reaction today screams defeated, caught, scum: he knows that failing to save Bell yesterday when pushing that hard, failing to kill the Neapolitan investigative (Xtoxm was a decent kill regardless, but it's pretty damn obvious the scum were blindsided by it being jjh and that they didn't know it was him and thought it had to be someone else and guessed wrong about it being Xtoxm), having many of the needed mislynches become conftown either via their role or via their play, all add up to an inevitable result: the town has an autowin here now.
4: OkaPoka was a major pusher of the counterwagon to Bell the flipped scum, both on the mastina counterwagon and the Titus counterwagon. He tried to force a claim out of me, repeatedly, because he needed the information I was holding back. Without knowing what I knew, he couldn't make the right call, so he tried to force that information out, and when he couldn't, he compromised into pushing a wagon that the townbeards were willing to back the scumteam on.
5: OkaPoka has been scum the entire game and I've literally written cases demonstrating all of the reasons for why he was scum. Having what amounts to a cop guilty on him is just the cherry on top of the already existing mountain of evidence.