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[Flea The Magician]

I'd love to know what info Misty has for us today

[Dannflor]

Titus flip basically confirms Grendel as town right

[GreyICE]

Screw Titus. Jesse flip basically confirms Grendel as town.

[GreyICE]

Or at least "not Mafia"

[Dannflor]

I did pick Jesse so I'm not shooting again

[GreyICE]

And yesterday Pooky was like "could the town have both of these roles and still be balanced?"

I think your role has done less than his has.

[GreyICE]

Like to be clear, I believe your claim, it's just... lol

[GreyICE]

In fairness at this point we should probably coordinate things so you do get a shot off so plan out the next few days

[cassowary]

My role is

ghoul

-- I target someone at night and if I were to die, my target dies instead.

I asked some clarifying questions of gamma d2, and this is, um, apparently infinite-use but I do not get notified if the ability is triggered or not. Which makes me functionally immortal at night as long as I use the ability or not.

N1 I targeted Kop, actually, which was a reason I was more suspicious of Grendel -- thought it might have been an opportunistic scum claim when they had tried to kill me instead? idk maybe i should have mentioned this last day but I thought claiming this role would essentially make it useless. and this theory still didn't explain where the second kill came from anyway. oh well too late now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

N2 I targeted pooky who obviously didn't die

tbh we've got, what, 8 people alive with 1 mafia left? I think if we can get it down to PoE of 3 (Dann, Pooky, me?) we can eliminate all 3 in any order and still win, pretty easy (7v1 miselim -> 5v1 miselim -> 3v1 [or 2v1 i guess if grendel dies due to not killing anyone] -> last PoE = correct elim, town wins). unless we think there's a remote chance grendel is scum and shot his only remaining partner in an insane gambit, or something, I think it's pretty much a lock.

[cassowary]

I asked some clarifying questions of gamma d2, and this is, um, apparently infinite-use but I do not get notified if the ability is triggered or not. Which makes me functionally immortal at night as long as I use the ability or not.

uh, scratch the second 'or not' here, I don't know why I put that there

[GreyICE]

I do want to hear misty's results and claim.

But Cass, Marky Mark is def not conf. town.

[cassowary]

Ah dang, I guess you're right, have to do some actual work here then

[GreyICE]

Do we? Hmmm, I actually wonder. Say you believe my tracker claim, and that makes Pooky confirmed.

Roles

Grendel - Vig
Dunn - Vig-like object
PookyTheMagicalBear - Chocolate townie
cassowary - Ghoul
Flea the Magician - Treestump
GreyICE - Tracker
Marky Mark - VT (?)
Mistyx - Oracle

Okay, so Flea stumps. We yeet Marky. Vig Misty, I track Dunn, Dunn picks Cassowary. Then if Misty is town, we have confirmation that there's no SK, so Grendel is confirmed town. New situation would be one of:

Pooky
Dunn - Uncleared
Grendel
Cassowary

Yeet Cassowary, Grendel vigs Dunn, Dunn vigs Pooky, Grendel survives (Dead Misty = confirmed non-SK remember)

OR

Pooky
Dunn - Tracked to Cassowary who is alive (and thus Dunn confirmed non-Ninja)
GreyICE
Cassowary

Then we can yeet Cassowary, and Dunn (who would be tracker-confirmed here) can shoot me. Which basically leaves us with some situation where Pooky has a role that lets him track to both night kills and knew I'd be tracking him last night and somehow used it?

Am I missing something?

[GreyICE]

Is there a role that's unflipped they're likely to have to disrupt this?

[Marky Mark]

So I guess right now, my scumhunting comes down to two questions

Who was pushing the Grendel lim D2?
Whose role does not make sense in the setup as town?

The answer to the first is Pooky/Cass off the top of my head (Flea voted Grendel for a time too, but not with the same focus).

The answer to the second I am not so sure of - I've not played many games and most that I have played have been normals, so setup balance in role madness is not my strong area


--pedit @grice ntoed, let me have a think ref this. Obvs I'm, not keen to be limmed, but if we can break the setup to conf win then ofc I support that

[Marky Mark]

@Grice ref your strat, I don't think its unreasonable to expect the third scum to have a PR of some sort, so relying on a strat that could run to the last 3 could be risky if the scum eg have some way of blocking/redirecting vig shots or tracks

[Marky Mark]

Fwiw, my flavour is Sir Don Bradman (famous Cricket batter). I was heavily suspected that I was a miller on account of the 'Don' in my name and the lack of other powers/abilities in a setup where everyone else seems to have one.

[Marky Mark]

Great intro Gamma - thank your

sir

!

Time to

put on

our thinking caps and batter some scum.

VOTE: Jake 1v1 me bro

--pedit: we are so in sync, Mistyx. Townbloc is clearly already forming

Put on = don. Sir Don.

[Marky Mark]

*crickets*

I thought the rest of the playerlist would be itching to get going rn...

*crickets*

Vax and Uncrowned, can you lay a vote please, so that we can see where consensus lies? A vote and a wider poe would be even better.

We are cutting this pretty fine to find a consensus wagon and go through the claim process, especially given the posting frequency of much of the plist

Plus the multiple cricket crumbs

[Mistyx]

i'm waiting for clarification on my result

but i'm pretty sure it just outright clears grendel, dunn, and cass?

also i'm claiming jade harley, i'm a mechanics oracle with a 1-shot bp

if my bp is triggered i can't use my oracle ability anymore

[Marky Mark]

as in your N2 result clears grendel, dunn, cass?

[Marky Mark]

If so, then GRICE/Pookie seem to be mutually cleared, so would mean Flea is hardlocked scum, or you're lying, from my POV

[Mistyx]

as in your N2 result clears grendel, dunn, cass?

correct

i was told that there are 3 roles capable of killing in the setup, presumably not counting the mafia factional kill

though i don't know if cass or flea would count towards it

[Marky Mark]

A flea claim here might help clarify where we are at in terms of his ability to kill

[Flea The Magician]

Well in that case, give me a moment to get the gif and I'll fire my ability. This is the protown use from it If I'm mech hard scum then sure, but the mech solve is heavily flawed in that case, so consider that.

Just making my activation GIF