Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[DrippingGoofball]

I am trying to help get an explanation for DGB scum other than quiet lurked on D1.

DGB being scum is likely why scum couldn't flip the wagon to Cakez.

What??? SirCakez is town.

@Prism - earlier in the game I addressed you. I hinted something specifically at you. I was hoping you'd read between the lines. Clearly you did not. Go back and read again.

[Battle Mage]

weekend V/LA until Monday PM

[Prism]

I caught it the second time, vote still stays.

[DrippingGoofball]

You didn't catch it then.

[DrippingGoofball]

It's unfortunate, but I will say nothing more about it. Keep voting me.

[Prism]

Something that was mine is now yours, but others stay unchanged, such as my vote.

[MathBlade]

Assume it is obvious and you are town:

Who do you think is voting/shading you for D1 play?

Who do you think is voting/shading you because they want you gone?

Who do you think is voting/shading you because they genuinely scumread you?

[Bell]

It's unfortunate, but I will say nothing more about it. Keep voting me.

I don’t get why you would say for prism to keep voting you.

[DrippingGoofball]

It's unfortunate, but I will say nothing more about it. Keep voting me.

I don’t get why you would say for prism to keep voting you.

Resignation.

[MathBlade]

I don’t get why Prism is voting DBG if she understood what it was saying.

If she did it would be a probable scum claim unless I am missing something?

[Prism]

It's because I straight up don't care lmao

[Titus]

@Math and DGB - What are your thoughts on BM?

@Tammy, You're largely right. I do have some doubts based on his recent posting but still probably town. I see him trying to force a Cakez scum PoV and a hunt on the Cakez wagon which makes no sense if Cakez was the more valuable slot over mastina. If Mathblade's theory holds, then the Cakez wagon could be all town. He's not acting according to that theory. That could be an agenda. He uses things like 2 scum kills to justify his position, which isn't certain given what info we have. He's trying to dictate the game solve according to his parameters rather than where the evidence takes us.

[MathBlade]

@Math and DGB - What are your thoughts on BM?

@Tammy, You're largely right. I do have some doubts based on his recent posting but still probably town. I see him trying to force a Cakez scum PoV and a hunt on the Cakez wagon which makes no sense if Cakez was the more valuable slot over mastina. If Mathblade's theory holds, then the Cakez wagon could be all town. He's not acting according to that theory. That could be an agenda. He uses things like 2 scum kills to justify his position, which isn't certain given what info we have. He's trying to dictate the game solve according to his parameters rather than where the evidence takes us.

Yes, the Cakez wagon could be all town but it’s not the probable answer.
Town deals in probables.
That’s why I am phrasing the hunt based upon the D1 narrative.

Is the Cakez wagon all town? >> If yes then at least two scum on the Mastina wagon.
If no then at least one scum in Cakez/Titus/Dunn (I am not including masons/myself in that PoE)

Scum in 3 is better than scum in 9 that may not even exist.

[MathBlade]

My thoughts on BM are could be scum he’s in my PoE of one.

It’s much more likely scum is in you + Cakez and I deal in probables.

[Bell]

It's unfortunate, but I will say nothing more about it. Keep voting me.

I don’t get why you would say for prism to keep voting you.

Resignation.

Poptart rainbow kitty is never supposed to be resigned!
Also, I don’t understand.
Mostly I’m scum reading you because I think your initial response to Titus was pretty emotional manipulative.
I’m not sure you’d assign blame to someone non-tactically.
Rather it felt like it was a tactical choice more than because they were your real feelings.

So, I’ll just proceed I suppose!

[DrippingGoofball]

I think your initial response to Titus was pretty emotional manipulative.

how

[MathBlade]

Assume it is obvious and you are town:

Who do you think is voting/shading you for D1 play?

Who do you think is voting/shading you because they want you gone?

Who do you think is voting/shading you because they genuinely scumread you?

@DGB I didn’t get an answer to this?

[Bell]

I think your initial response to Titus was pretty emotional manipulative.

how

Did I figure out you were scum from a single post?
I’m talented what can I say.

[DrippingGoofball]

Assume it is obvious and you are town:

Who do you think is voting/shading you for D1 play?

Who do you think is voting/shading you because they want you gone?

Who do you think is voting/shading you because they genuinely scumread you?

@DGB I didn’t get an answer to this?

I didn't realize this was directed at me.

I only have three votes. Titus, Dunnstral, Prism.

• Titus always scumreads me. I don't think very highly of her VCA in terms of results, but I like that the exercize makes it easier for me to read her alignment. Misguided as she is, I think she is town who believes in her VCA. It's happened before; recently we were in a game where her VCA was an abomination and she was literally yeeted for a VCA so bad no one believed it could come from town. She was town
  
• Dunnstral, possibly a combination of voting D1/D2 play, wants me gone, but could want me gone because he's scum, and that's where I'm at with Dunnstral. He's a scumread of mine.
  
• I am mystified by Prism, I don't understand what she's doing, she is my strongest town read in the game, I can't wrap my head around it.

[Bell]

Can we not wait until the last minute to eliminate someone this time?

[borkjerfkin]

I'm not attacking you

What you're doing isn't making sense to me

What is your fascination with me? Your read went from town to scum because you don't think I'm a mason, but what am I scum for?

Tone felt accusatory; tone still feels accusatory. I don't really care about that in a bubble, but I think it's disingenuous to say that your posts can't well be interpreted as an attack on me (as you do in 2962
This also feels like the second time I'm being told I'm being uncharacteristically focused/fascinated on a particular slot (first Titus, and now you). I've mostly left you alone today other than having you in my PoE pool. I don't think that constitutes a fascination and you calling it that feels slimy.

They went out of their way to leave hints that they thought I was a mason

this also gets a big ol' 'what the fuck'

I saw LLD's medium hard defense of you and wanted to back off from any previous pushing I did w/o making it obvious why I was doing that. I don't get what potential scum motivation you're trying to apply to this.

Most of why I was on you through the middle of D1 was that your attacks on Mathblade seemed like they came from a position where you didn't seem to understand what he was trying to say but were confident in scumreading him for it, and any time I called attention to that you came down with a big case of "whataboutism" from the rest of the thread instead of either trying to give me what your take on Math was or admitting you didn't really know either and backing off. It still looks like from the beginning of the game you came in with the intent of scumreading Mathblade in a somewhat dismissive manner rather than considering his reads at the beginning of the game.

I don't really care all that much that our PoE pool is pretty similar and this isn't an angle I'd really have even considered if you hadn't brought it up - I feel like this is the sort of thing I see when someone's trying to say "I can't be scum because that PoE pool doesn't make sense with me in it" which, maybe the latter part could be true, and if I'm trying to go for some kind of perfect solve then maybe I care about that. But I'm not.

[borkjerfkin]

I like the analysis of DGB 2867 at first glance.

[MathBlade]

Spicy take: I think DGB and Titus are the same alignment.

[penguin_alien]

Plumbing emergency here at Medea the Alien. I'll get a vote count up before the morning, but I may not respond quickly to issues in the next 12 hours, nor will my backup mod (husband for those who don't follow my life on Page Six). Don't leave me

another shitstorm

a mess to return to here. Escalate to Untrod Tripod if there's an urgent matter. Thanks!

[Prism]

Current ordered preference: GI, DGB, Titus, Cakez, Dunn, Math, BM