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Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:08 pm

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In post 2271, VP Baltar wrote:Still waiting on that midway momentum
Maxwell and Datisi have both already expressed interest in voting there, or have voted there. That’s nothing to you?
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Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:55 pm

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Explain?
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Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:55 pm

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It was a joke.
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Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:40 am

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In post 2249, Andresvmb wrote:Cookie Monster’s reaction just on this page would be amazing coming from Scum. It would be fantastic theater from a player that hasn’t completed that many games. I think it’s genuine.
all of the posts on this page or any in particular?
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Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:41 am

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oh we moved to the nex page--was referring to page 91
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Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:42 am

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lol okay we actually moved two pages over. i was referring to 90. didn't realize i missed a whole set of pages
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Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:48 am

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happy birthday, Baltar

who are scum?
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Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:58 am

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Spoiler: quote wall from Andres
In post 2264, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 150, VP Baltar wrote:
As in, why specifically is GC town here, and do you think Duchess is scum?
In post 163, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 159, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:
In post 154, VP Baltar wrote:He isn't being cagey about his reads in that post. He is using a metaphor to explain his viewpoint
those were 2 separate points.
you just assumed they were one and the same.
Then explain specifically where he is being cagey about his reads. I don't see it and need an explanation
In post 182, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 173, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 167, Duchess wrote:I don't know exactly what kind of push I was expecting to see, but if I recall correctly there was some discussion just before that time of Italiano possibly being an easy early push, and what I saw pinged me, so I wanted to nip it in the bud.
This post is screaming TMI
Do you think Duchess and Italiano are scum together? Or that duchess was scum trying to pocket a low hanging fruit townie?
In post 222, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 221, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:
In post 219, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 212, Duchess wrote:Bring the smoke then, a vote puts about as much pressure on me as the bottom of a puddle.
Are you usually this combative as town? Or is this game pissing you off?
You call that combative?
As a reformed toxic player, I'm sure you wouldn't understand casual combativeness.

Yeah, I think Duchess had a bit of a bad faith response to GC
In post 227, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 226, Duchess wrote:VP, where did I respond in bad faith to GC?
You've called his posting strawmanning and loaded questions variously, which seems combative when you could just answer the questions.

You also seem to be telling RTP to bring it. Your overall demeanor seems aggressive. Just curious if that 'fight me' attitude is common to your town play.
You did. Trying to argue that you didn’t is laughable.

I never got the sense that Baltar was trying to instigate the GC/Duchess back and forth

I remember thinking it was like a lifeline that someone was actually vocalizing some rationality with the post or two Baltar made about Duchess's interaction with me (the last two you quoted)

The first two posts seem to be challenging RTP's read on me, which might push toward different alignment reads (first challenging why i'm town; second why i'm sus).

Just recalling off the top of my head, I think most of Baltar's relationship with my slot is asking others about me; not that he's been trying to actively instigate a read one way or another, but just trying to get an assessment on where others stand.
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Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:03 am

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In post 2246, Andresvmb wrote:But then there seems to be some momentum against midwaybear (who btw they had near the top of their pyramid earlier in the game).
why are we getting bogged down on the momentum point?

Baltar, have you explained why you have changed your stance on midway? if yes, please link. if no, please explain. if you think it hasn't changed, please address it from that POV.
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Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:18 am

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In post 2283, Green Crayons wrote:Baltar, have you explained why you have changed your stance on midway? if yes, please link. if no, please explain. if you think it hasn't changed, please address it from that POV.
You mean from D1 to now?

Two main things. First, my own wagon analysis on Italiano and who I thought was most likely to be scum there. Second, the extreme dip in game involvement since coming on the scene. He is struggling to stay engaged in the game, and has said weirdly a couple times that he can't find scum in the game, only town. That can def happen to townies, but I think at this stage of the game, you should have at least some scum indicators to follow.
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Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:25 am

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In post 2281, Green Crayons wrote:happy birthday, Baltar

who are scum?
Thank you!

On scum, midway is where my vote is at. I'm still not sold on Dunn, but I'm giving myself a break there to think about the game in different ways. That being said, if midway flips scum, people should absolutely not give dunn a free pass just for voting.

I'm eagerly awaiting DGB to get in the mix, since I had sinking feelings about elements before they lurked out.

There is probably someone severely in my blindspot, but it is really hard when I feel like there are only a small handful of players who are actively contributing to the game. I definitely have a bias right now to seeing activity moving the gamestate as at least marginally pro-town.
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Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:28 am

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In post 2285, VP Baltar wrote:I'm eagerly awaiting DGB to get in the mix,
It will have to wait to tomorrow, I am swamped today.
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Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:34 am

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Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:30 pm

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VPB why do you keep emphasizing that other people being scum doesn't make me town?
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Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:35 pm

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In post 2288, Dunnstral wrote:VPB why do you keep emphasizing that other people being scum doesn't make me town?
Who else did I say this about besides midway?
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Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:56 pm

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Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:14 pm

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I just think you've been independently scummy. Andres in particular seemed to be saying you're town based on flips, and I'm not sold on that. If midway flips scum, I'll certainly reconsider my thoughts on you, but I'm saying it's not a free pass from my perspective.
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Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:49 pm

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I'm still here but struggling to think of things to say. Still okay with voting midway, I think. I'll try to review things tomorrow.
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Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:03 pm

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In post 2292, maxwell wrote:I'm still here but struggling to think of things to say. Still okay with voting midway, I think. I'll try to review things tomorrow.
Who is scum outside midway?
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Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:13 am

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I don't know. I'm having trouble finding footing in this game. I'll try to read more later today.
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Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:36 am

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@Mod I’m VLA until tomorrow night.
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Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:32 am

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Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:10 pm

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This game is really hard to follow for some reason
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Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:17 pm

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In post 2297, Cookie Monster wrote:This game is really hard to follow for some reason
If you're just going to post useless crap, why should we not yeet you?
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Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:13 pm

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More cookie monster votes pls
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