Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I was thinking more like what does this have to do with Wall Street tho

like what was the insight from that game that you are applying to this one?

[Bell]

I’ve taken your posts in context In this game fmpov MBz

1. When MB died in wall street Grayice made a speech about this not being MB’s town game then voted him. He later moved off.
2. I pooky@just wanted to see how you’d react. I honestly don’t really have the time to follow games in depth due to work.

[Bell]

*clarification. I have enough time to read this game in depth* but not others. (Relatively speaking).

[MathBlade]

1) Uhm GreyICE wasn’t in Wall Street iirc? And you’re saying he voted me after I died? I think you might want to restate that Bell.

[Bell]

Whoops I mixed up games my bad. I retract everything I just said and keep the question for grayice to explain within this game’s context if he can when he has time.

[Titus]

I am expecting next week to be lighter so I can do a readwall on each player by play if I can't get to it Sunday. I'm not going to be able to do in depth posting tomorrow because that's DnD day.

[Prism]

So immediately after getting up to exercise I realized not only am I not exercising today I am in fact Physically Ill

and so I Shall Not Ride Today

I don't think this really affected anything but yeah no more tonight I'm just going to drink a lot of water instead and revisit if I feel better tomorrow, if I still feel like shit just pass the reins off to someone else and call it a day

And I'm not saying it's because I've spent too much time on this game BUT MAYBE IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT

[Dunnstral]

If you're getting physically ill because of this mafia game you should probably take a step back from it

[Prism]

It's a joke, dw

[Tammy]

Nacho is home for a little while after being out of town for a week before he leaves for another week. We were going to play mafia independently when he got home, but he and LLD were very rudely shot just before he got home, so we're doing something else.

I'm not sure about DGB. I don't really understand their read on me? Yes, that's a scumtell that they use pretty regularly, but they stopped using scumtells like that on me quite a while ago and always said they can read my tone, and it came after a good 12-hour chunk of time where I was here and posting. I thought maybe interaction would help with my read there, and I was interested in their GreyIce read since I'm pretty sure they played together a bit in the before time, but I think I'm on their foe list now and so I guess I don't get a response.

I did skim their play in wall street and that's the type of play I mostly expect whereas here it feels different, but I do not know what to make of that.

Oh I think i know what they're hinting to prism mayyyybe, but if it happens to be that DGB gave Prism an artifact then there is scum in DGB or Cakez. (I don't think that is, but Prism's response left me wondering if that could be it.)

LLD - Thanks! And fair enough.

I thought I had something else but it's late and I'm tired

[MathBlade]

Whoops I mixed up games my bad. I retract everything I just said and keep the question for grayice to explain within this game’s context if he can when he has time.

What game did you mean then?

Is like nobody going to note how Bell seems to be inventing reasons to scumread me?

Like I get wanting your question answered but like can you all explain how you’re townreading Bell when this is like the 7th (hyperbole) time I have asked him to expand why and he either can’t or it’s factually incorrect?

I am having a hard time seeing how people are townreading Bell. Would love an explanation.

[MathBlade]

Nacho is home for a little while after being out of town for a week before he leaves for another week. We were going to play mafia independently when he got home, but he and LLD were very rudely shot just before he got home, so we're doing something else.

I'm not sure about DGB. I don't really understand their read on me? Yes, that's a scumtell that they use pretty regularly, but they stopped using scumtells like that on me quite a while ago and always said they can read my tone, and it came after a good 12-hour chunk of time where I was here and posting. I thought maybe interaction would help with my read there, and I was interested in their GreyIce read since I'm pretty sure they played together a bit in the before time, but I think I'm on their foe list now and so I guess I don't get a response.

I did skim their play in wall street and that's the type of play I mostly expect whereas here it feels different, but I do not know what to make of that.

Oh I think i know what they're hinting to prism mayyyybe, but if it happens to be that DGB gave Prism an artifact then there is scum in DGB or Cakez. (I don't think that is, but Prism's response left me wondering if that could be it.)

LLD - Thanks! And fair enough.

I thought I had something else but it's late and I'm tired

I think we are on a different wavelength but moon logic I don’t want to touch that because it’s probably antitown except I pick Cakez out of DGB and Cakez every time.

[Bell]

Whoops I mixed up games my bad. I retract everything I just said and keep the question for grayice to explain within this game’s context if he can when he has time.

What game did you mean then?

Is like nobody going to note how Bell seems to be inventing reasons to scumread me?

Like I get wanting your question answered but like can you all explain how you’re townreading Bell when this is like the 7th (hyperbole) time I have asked him to expand why and he either can’t or it’s factually incorrect?

I am having a hard time seeing how people are townreading Bell. Would love an explanation.

1. I can't answer this.
2. See section 1 of my first wall against you.
3. This is like your 15th attempt to appeal to fairness. Most everyone in this game is going to answer with. Meta (Bell sucks as scum), Bell appears to believe what he's saying regardless of the accuracy. Or "how does that make him scum?"
4. I guess all the players in this game are my scum partners?

[penguin_alien]

Afternoon Vote Count 2.07

Afternoon 2 will end in (expired on 2021-03-14 12:31:37)

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to Bronze

Titus (5): DrippingGoofball, GreyICE, Battle Mage, SirCakez, MathBlade
borkjerfkin (1): Spiffeh
DrippingGoofball (4): Titus, Dunnstral, Prism, Bell

Not voting (4): Tammy, Lady Lambdadelta, borkjerfkin, PookyTheMagicalBear

Mod notes: Lady Lambdadelta is V/LA
Battle Mage is V/LA until 3/16
37/70 pages used

[Prism]

Joining a wagon that has 5 of 7 members of my current scum pool

What could go wrong?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: dgb

[Prism]

Nacho is home for a little while after being out of town for a week before he leaves for another week. We were going to play mafia independently when he got home, but he and LLD were very rudely shot just before he got home, so we're doing something else.

Look, you can enjoy quality time with your partner in between long weeks apart, hearts separated that should be as one. You can take a walk together, you can consume a variety of foods, fine wine, and forms of mass media, you can simply enjoy one another's presence.

Alternatively you can tell that lazy ass bum to take a fuckin' hike you've gotta read the Titus ISO one more time get rekt cya next week bring me food while you're out

TBH still considering flipping Titus in spite of the above about that vote makeup being the stuff of nightmares but iuno

[MathBlade]

V/LA because birthday weekend

[Titus]

VLA this weekend. Birthday weekend.

[Bell]

Have a good Birthday weekend!

I'm not sure how I feel about DGB the more I think about their position the more question marks I have.

Obviously they did something to Prism.
But DGB is neglecting relationships outside of that point of leverage. Trying to gain Prism's trust essentially. They're awesome at fake claiming. But from my position sitting here as an ignorant townie. This kind of feels like it's amateurish?
Sort of like a scum fruit vendor claim hoping to pocket one person and when they get voted not realizing that the the reaction of an actual town fruit vendor is not confusion but omgus. They're lightly implying Prism sucs but saying it in the gentlest way possible through the angle of "I don't know what Prism is doing" when, like, fmpov Prism just isn't town binning you for an ambiguous night action.

[Bell]

I also think a prism visit is a smarter visit for scum than LLD. Because LLD could have been watched and who knows how Spiffy would have reacted. But I'm making a lot of leaps in logic when the information is unclear and I'm bad with claims on a good day.

[SirCakez]

sorry I've been kind of absent lately. was really busy yesterday but I have time this weekend and I shouldn't be as busy going forward now that I'm settled into school.

Cakez - Thank you for writing your case, not necessarily because it tells me anything new about Pooky, but I kinda want to put to bed my suspicions on you for it, I think.

THESIS
Pooky's entire day 1 strategy revolved around buddying people and coasting until he got pressure from me for it. After that point, he dedicated the rest of his day to an essentially OMGUS push on me INCLUDING SIGNIFICANTLY AT THE KEY POINT WHERE IT WAS EITHER MASTINA OR I WHO WAS GOING TO BE ELIMMED.
He did not perform ANY original scumhunting day 1 - all of his pushes day 1 consist of either sheeping or attacking people who attacked him.
He used being leashed to LLD as an excuse to not take responsibility for his vote.
He repeatedly expressed fake-ass indignation that anyone could be scumreading him - despite all of the above.

Not on my computer at the moment, so I’m just pulling that. I agree that all of these are problematic from Pooky, they are in large part why he’s been giving me problems this game, and every time he tries to use the Mastina protocol or whatever it is to say he’s confirmed town, I want to reach through my screen and rip the stuffing outta that bear. And while I don’t think typically scum actually try to abdicate responsibility for their vote in such a blatant way, the leashing thing is stupid and juvenile and I wish they’d stop.

So this is mostly to say that I read your case, I understand and some of those things bother me too, except the buddying as a buddies myself it’s not inherently scummy, but I’m not entirely sure it’s from scum. I wish I had experience with Pooky town to know if my concerns aren’t just playstyle rather than alignment indicative. I have appreciated his thread health moments that haven’t felt like posturing. And I liked his post about the mason issue because in a sense it felt like he was opening himself up to suspicion on that part, and we both know that he’ll happily pretend to be a mason as scum. And the moments in Between the above feel natural and I like his presence at those times. The possibility that he could be a mason too is enough for me to consider he’s just town here as well.

I don't know what to do with him anymore honestly.

@Cakez, We agree on practically everything, yet you feel my posts are bad. Cog dis?

No we don't.
I actually hate this post a lot.

Bork is a bad elimination.

It's DGB BM and one of Cakez/Pooky/Math/LLD.

Just look at this post. You have two of my strongest townreads in your scumpool.

hey so

Prism what's your feelings on bork

Can you talk about your read on greyice at some point?

I’ll admit to not being the best greyice reader. I’m pretty sure one of the only times I got his alignment correct was when we were masons, and most of the other times he’s been in my possible or decently strong townreads as scum, so a little help would be nice because he’s not in my town reads right now.

My first concern was the way he called you scum, and a few times threw out the possibility of you as scum. He does not scum read you. I went back and looked at alisae and pine I think it was, which I had loosely followed, and he clearly scum read you there and pointed out why, whereas here there is no bite. Here’s my question is this just a kinda trolling interaction he’s having with you because why not and that’s totally cool if so OR is he feigning a bit of paranoia at you?)

I thought he started the Mastina wagon yesterday but looking back over things that isn’t the case. He was third after mathblade and bell though mathblade didn’t stick around for long, and his vote on Mastina was almost from a dare by Mastina to get on the wagon, which he did. I do very much like his interactions with Mastina because he called her out on all her bullshit, but I would have expected him to rally the troops onto Mastina more than he did.

His titus push feels off, mainly the argument that she read Mastina iso and saw how bad she looked and was responding out of that oh shit kinda of way, which doesn’t ring true when titus was aware of Mastina s treatment of her yesterday, and recognizing that scums treatment of you was wrong can easily come from town too. (I know that’s not the crux of his case but that bit hit wrong)

His bit about prism being scum and he got there by accident and is just that good hit wrong too.

Are these dumb concerns?

Thanks for this post Tammy. My concern with GI is kinda like bork where it just feels like he doesn't care about this game.
also he called me a bad player so I'm offended

Maybe I should just give up the ghost and accept that DGB is God itself, correct reads up and down the board with no sweat, calmly and patiently pointing out every error made by others like a Zen master....except to whack Titus with the "ur bad" bat ofc

But to me this slot is blatantly informed about alignments between Pooky, Cakez, Titus, me/Math, etc. and throwing LLD in scumleans awhile back does not change this imo

Yeah the reads just seem so fake.

Can we not wait until the last minute to eliminate someone this time?

I hate this kind of posting because it's so airy and does nothing to actually accomplish this goal. Like do something about it Bell.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: dgb
Prism is right this has much better wagon composition

[Bell]

I hate posts about hating posts because they’re so airy and it does nothing.
It’s not even accurate in this case.
So I can only think you either aren’t reading or you’re being a poser.

[Dunnstral]

Current ordered preference: GI, DGB, Titus, Cakez, Dunn, Math, BM

Why GI?