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[skitter30]

i don't get the argument that skitter should vote someone who will actually go to elimination to save Mena, it kind of sidesteps the act of voting a player you scumread and is just a weird framing of the vote.

pedit: eh.

From the start of 1800, it looks like Lucy sees herself as very townread in the village, so she might be thinking wolf skitter's making a push that doesn't actually have a chance of going through to save Menalque, and is only doing it for appearances? The pocket thing is flawed but I can see reasoning behind that part of it.

if scum-me is trying to save partner-mena that would be a very ineffective way of goinb about it, no?

[Luca Blight]

@skitter: I’ll consider your points against Lucy later when I have time

@Chara: Day and I both mind-melded a townbloc of: Luca, Day, Norwee, Pooky, Farkran, Lucy

Lucy is the one I’m least certain on though so I’ll look into that more later

[skitter30]

ok yes please do

[Day]

i don't get the argument that skitter should vote someone who will actually go to elimination to save Mena, it kind of sidesteps the act of voting a player you scumread and is just a weird framing of the vote.

pedit: eh.

From the start of 1800, it looks like Lucy sees herself as very townread in the village, so she might be thinking wolf skitter's making a push that doesn't actually have a chance of going through to save Menalque, and is only doing it for appearances? The pocket thing is flawed but I can see reasoning behind that part of it.

if scum-me is trying to save partner-mena that would be a very ineffective way of goinb about it, no?

No, I mean if Lucy thinks she's unpushable, and skitter wants to save Menalque, and skitter sees Lucy also as unpushable, then Lucy thinks that skitter would be better inclined to push someone other than Lucy if skitter were town. If skitter were wolf, she doesn't care as much because she doesn't actually care about saving the villager Menalque. So it's not that it has scum motivation, but it has a lack of town motivation. 'm probably delving far too deep in assuming what exactly Lucy was thinking and should let her speak for herself though.

[Day]

no but i have a guess for who she is

also day to compound the above: she's saying all of this right after she voted mena to e1. i.e. she's saying that i'm scummier than mena and that i'm trying to pocket him blah blah blah just after she placed the e1 vote on him (and thus indicating she scumreads him ...)

pedit yes can we vote lucy now? 1800 was awful

i mean yeah it's certainly not great, but i haven't liked what i've seen of Day's approach either.
i'm not sure about the unvote and then "i'll think on it". i first thought yeah, that's what Day should do given the timeline has apparently been cleared up, but maybe that's also what scum Day should do rather than doubling down, anyway.

What would be a towny approach then?

'd like an answer to this, Chara.

[skitter30]

ok but if i'm scum trying to save my partner pushing someone who's unpushable isn't going to get me very far? like how does that help anything

[Day]

I don't think Lucy was implying you were trying to save your partner? I think she was implying you would be wolf and Menalque would be town in that scenario.

[skitter30]

right, the person she just voted to e1

[PenguinPower]

[Day]

Love it when alts claim to know other alts mains but neither are public. Love it.

Am I wrong or wrong though?

[PenguinPower]

I love it that you think I’m going to answer you!

Dr Worm IS NOT TROWN.

[Day]

LegoLucy is totally town.

Why did she use to be a trown for you?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you are the worst defense attorney i have ever seen

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you trying to make her look more guilty lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its almost unfair for her to have you defending her

[Day]

:-|

[PenguinPower]

Should I use /s for you from now on?

[PenguinPower]

Woooh bear spam

[Day]

right, the person she just voted to e1

I can sympathize with reading two players independently and not doing pre-flip team reads but I agree it is a little jarring in this case.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its almost like she never believed mena was scum in the first place

@pengy i have to be on my spampost a game now that skitter has returned lest she steal my shitpost crown.

[PenguinPower]

Lulz shitpost crown

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I know right

not as impressive as the Pagetop crown but not everyone can be as talented as you.

[Chara]

What would be a towny approach then?

there are a lot of towny approaches, if you're saying you want me to specify exactly what i think you should have done differently if you were town... i don't know you. :>

[Day]

:<

[skitter30]

right, the person she just voted to e1

I can sympathize with reading two players independently and not doing pre-flip team reads but I agree it is a little jarring in this case.

she's literally going: e-1 mena
and then shortly thereafter saying that i'm scum trying to pocket him

why and how she switched from one to the other isn't clear, and those universes don't make sense to believe in at the same time