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[LegoLucy]

it doesn't matter what you want! mafia is about mercilessly voting your mafia e-girlfriend!!! just kill her!! dead!!! that's love!!!!

If killing me will make me your e-girlfriend I will rolestop you so the roleblockers can't stop you from vigging me. I promise to get my self pretty and Macho by the time night comes as confusing as that will be to manage.

[Something_Smart]

Well now I should probably reread Lucy's posts knowing who she is

[Chara]

i simply do not wish him to be scum

(im finally here to try to read but i am decidedly higher than i thought i'd be while doing this)

or she's town actually

i do not wish him to be scum, i don't even know who the him is but seeing such a sentiment after feeling such a feeling from Pooky, it hits. Day doesn't get points both times this was expressed were agreeing with someone, by my memory.

[Something_Smart]

Lucy, I do want to know why you thought my questions were easy, because now I know that you know me pretty well and I think they've been pretty average.

[Chara]

it doesn't matter what you want! mafia is about mercilessly voting your mafia e-girlfriend!!! just kill her!! dead!!! that's love!!!!

If killing me will make me your e-girlfriend I will rolestop you so the roleblockers can't stop you from vigging me. I promise to get my self pretty and Macho by the time night comes as confusing as that will be to manage.

aaaaahhhhhhhh

i can't do this again. i shouldn't do this for a third time. and yet.

[Day]

Day doesn't get points both times this was expressed were agreeing with someone, by my memory.

Not true actually. 've acknowledged it myself previously.

[Day]

1851

[Chara]

this is me promising myself i'll look into that.

pedit: oh, you're so nice.

[Chara]

true, there it is. you have the awareness. i hate self-awareness.

[Chara]

[LegoLucy]

A couple low points from skitter this game

luca to elaborate a bit: i townread you fairly strongly at this point
and i believe that you have a fairly high level of accuracy at reading norwee
(you sound kinda exactly like me when i talk abt reading someone like a50 for exactly)

i think you're therefore probably on to something, and i don't know who scum is rn, so i feel like it's worth a shot

i dont' think you're scum who's pulling 'i'm super good at reading norwee and y'all should sheep me because':
- you don't seem to expect you'll get sheeped
- if you were and you misflip town nor you'll lose a load of credibility

for all of those things together, if you're actually that good at reading him, i feel reasonably decent sheeping it

The hedgy language in this post and the assumptions about Luca's attentions were really TMI. A really unnatural thing about it a relative lack of content on Norwee, which was not instinctive for me as town, instinctively I wanted to be transparent about how my thought process compared and contrasted with Luca's. If Luca suddenly dropped support, I'd have more to explain on my own progression, skitter doesn't.

This wagon is soooo safe.
And I don't think she expects it to last a long time.
Idk I feel like there's a lot about this post I can't quite articulate it has qualities where it is "fine" that I think are explained by skitter not sucking at the game of mafia rather than this actually being the healthy way sheeping occurs.

Mena actually you maybe feel a littlw scummy to me (?)
I'm not sure tho

(To be clear i'm not like pushing you per se but rather want to try to get a better vibe)

This is one of those posts that makes me feel both that skitter/mena can't contain 2 scum and skitter likely contains one scum
Who writes a quadruply hedged scumlean post? The timing was weird to me too.

But it's part of what I was talking about in terms of her trying to get interactions that are favorable to her instead of trying to solve the game.
She doesn't present some small minor point to kick off this dialogue which is more towards what I'd expect a transparent townie to do. She just starts this totally open-ended interaction with Menalque that can go, like, lots of places she could want it to?


IDK I don't feel either of these are amazingly easy to articulate.
She's really deficient on townblocking the segment of the game that seems like it deserves to be townblocked, to me, that does some of it for me.

[LegoLucy]

Lucy, I do want to know why you thought my questions were easy, because now I know that you know me pretty well and I think they've been pretty average.

They're not that far from average, no, iirc that was low information stage so I don't feel I necessarily should be spitting gold out of the loom trying to make reads. I'm not sure about you as of now.

[LegoLucy]

S_S feels like the only proof the gimmick obscured me, he's altguessed me before

[LegoLucy]

it doesn't matter what you want! mafia is about mercilessly voting your mafia e-girlfriend!!! just kill her!! dead!!! that's love!!!!

If killing me will make me your e-girlfriend I will rolestop you so the roleblockers can't stop you from vigging me. I promise to get my self pretty and Macho by the time night comes as confusing as that will be to manage.

aaaaahhhhhhhh

i can't do this again. i shouldn't do this for a third time. and yet.

If this means what I think it means

it can be the last time, you know!

[LegoLucy]

Lucy, I do want to know why you thought my questions were easy, because now I know that you know me pretty well and I think they've been pretty average.

There was a separate time I disliked you a little a bit later in the game, not sure if this is that actually. I should look back.

Do you use meta to read me all that much S_S? I wouldn't think you would.

[Something_Smart]

I didn't really notice a gimmick, unless you mean the "village" stuff.

[Something_Smart]

I would say that I apply personality knowledge as a lens through which to read you, but not meta specifically. I don't recall having ever played against scum-you?

[LegoLucy]

I don't have much personality

[LegoLucy]

Yes I know how to play to people's expectations of me.

What do you think of Day's implication that you wouldn't be so sure on Pooky as town, then? Would you have shown more doubt as scum?

glad I don't have to actually read the case to know that it's just pooky picking the events that sound the worst.

I mean isn't that what a scumcase always is...?

These kind of accomplish a little less than average for you in terms of being leafrakey

your iso's not awful

[Ydrasse]

like im just

i feel super frustrated already w this game which is dumb but it feels like I Do Not Get To Have Fun Playing this one + i dont get to play how i want to (read, fun bc i really like this player list) and it will take me flipping town for people to see it's not AI for me to act like this i guess, idk

I do notice a higher level of frustration coming from you though and i have to agree with skitter that you were quicker to attack your attackers in the last game

Can you explain where's the difference between, say, skitter and costello/flea?

this is like, 10000 days late but i wanna answer this while i'm reading: i think i was especially frustrated by skitter's push bc i find being fun/social/flirty in games with player lists i like as something which is genuinely not alignment indicative for me, and it was irritating at the time to me because it felt like i am going to get scumread this game for behavior that i just find fun, and i won't be able to show everyone for sure 100% that it isn't an alignment thing with me until after this game/if i get flipped or killed, which sucks because i just want to hang out

i'm finding that one shortcoming of having a killer pl is that i'm the type of person who would rather hang out with people than actually solve and offer only potshots which doesn't do much for the game itself, but basically i took that push to heart especially. also, as i said before, it's really dumb fmpov to try something that just made me lose over again in the hopes that somehow it works this time

(sorry i just wanted to clarify this even though it's super old news)

(also might i say, i get fuckall from the first like, 30 pages or so, i'm where i started the game with luca + day town, alisae is town (and in general i think alisae's readslist in 537 is a fine one, barring 1-2 things, and goes with my reads from the start to that point), the push on me still feels like... skitter is town? probably? still yeah, i don't really think anyone's playing Overtly scummy so far)

back to trying to read up but my eyes are glazing over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It’s probably more useful to give us your thoughts on the last 5-10 pages rather than what happened days ago.

It will be more helpful for getting into the convo flow.

[Ydrasse]

tonally i hate pooky this game frankly for how Fluffy and Cute and Loving it is because it feels like a walking evil cavity but like, content wise idk what's going on in that noggin of his so idk if i would wanna elim him

if i went off of gut it'd be a yes but i also don't know if i know how to read pooky

p-edit oh hi there

yeah i just wanna catch up so i actually have context bc i feel like i'm missing stuff when i try to read the current convos and i want to have at least a vague sense of things

even if i don't comment on everything

[Ydrasse]

wouldn't elim: alisae, luca, farkran, norwee, skitter, chara

this is what i got out of the first 30 or so pages

[Ydrasse]

i have a bad feeling that i am being very bad at this game right now though and watch that be 6/6 mafia conspirators

[Ydrasse]

ok let me look at the most recent pages and maybe ill finish catching up tomorrow but sheesh