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[Alisae]

who does ydra want to kill

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Is there anything you want to talk to me about

[Alisae]

i don't know who i want to kill so i'll help ydra kill who ydra wants to kill cuz i trust u

[LegoLucy]

I didn't listen to this until now

I love this so much
<3

[Ydrasse]

i dont know who i want to kill yet

[Alisae]

TELL ME WHO TO KILL

[Alisae]

I WANT BLOOD

[Ydrasse]

i feel like you've decided you want to scumread me and are thus working backwards to find reasons to justify it

so uh, question here, while i'm catching up... hasn't lucy been scumreading you to some degree most of the game? at the start, there was a bit of like "oh this is a little towny" but then it went to "i'm unsure" in 755 and then from there it's been a fairly consistent scumread? like, i guess the wording of this post implies a sense of it being recent to me but there's... progression there, even if it's in the gimmicky typing style

why would lucy decide to not go with the earlier tr and just keep off of your radar? knowing now who it is lucy is capable enough to go toe-to-toe, sure, but that seems like a lot of unnecessary effort instead of what she's done this game about your slot imo?

[Ydrasse]

"makes sense" is in quotes. They're like, designed to be unobjectionable, designed for presentation, designed for an audience.

like, randing through your iso:

Idk but the fact that you thought it was similar to hectiv v fl and are also being v defensive about it now also feels kinda off to me

It's a free cheap shot to just throw calling someone "defensive", but do you actually in the alternative expect Ydrasse to just agree she's scum? Or even say "I can see how you feel that way but" when characterizing an entire playthrough that was randed differently is just going to be a harder errant scumread to sympathize with, actually.

You've probably done like half a dozen of these types of things

like idk, reading this follow up this doesn't seem like lucy just deciding to read you like that for the hell of it/agendawise, (and maybe i am biased bc i saw my name in this one LOL), but this feels like a genuine rebuttal question rather than attempting to perform some gotcha; he's really trying to like... get to the root of it

[NorwegianboyEE]

i already explained why i think he woudln't be doing that here, and why i don't think it's scummy
did you not see it or

No i did read your reasoning for why Mena is town.
I just didn’t vibe with it, it didn’t convince me at all.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if lucy thinks theres max 1 scum btw skitter/mena

and she thinks skitter is scum

why would she put mena at E-1 and propose he get hammered?

[Ydrasse]

didn't she say she finds them independently scummy?

[Ydrasse]

Pooky why are you pretending you don't know my main. Idk if I'll stay stealthed the rest of d1 at this point.

pedit: They're both independently scummy, but they're not scum together, and they've interacted with eachother in ways that seem more like pocketing than theater.

The absence of a spectacular mural of Mena and skitter sorting or attempting to sort eachother by this point seems scum indicative for the pair.

[Ydrasse]

i don't think it's that much of a stretch to imagine that it's just easier to vote mena than it is skitter when the wagon's right there and lucy thinks that

[NorwegianboyEE]

I actually am getting some Town vibes from Menalque

The thing is, if Mena is town then his towngame has completely degenerated and become this lazy: "sure wagon me i don’t rly care" style where he doesn’t want to try anymore. And Skitter professing this is absolutely 100% town Mena does give me bad vibes it could be a townflip with Skitter setting up to look good with a townflip. But then again, it would be like 50/50 then, when originally my confidence was a lot higher. So i think it’s a good thing you unvoted because there’s clearly something fucky going on and i don’t know if it’s because Mena is just scum, Skitter is scum chainsawing, or it’s SvS somehow.
If both town it would be weird because something about Mena/Skitter interactions feels fake/like one is pocketing another.

[LegoLucy]

I didn't not propose he get hammered.
I temporarily had them closer to even as a kneejerk to the vote:vote: thing and wanted to be impulsive and run someone up to e1
Also how much should I pass on an opportunity to see one of my scumreads become the day's elims in the hope of eliminating a slot that like 3-5 people have said they would refuse to vote D1 regardless of apparent alignment? that's questionable one in hand two in bush logic

[NorwegianboyEE]

I also townread Lucy and i don’t like how Skitter has seemingly just been pushing town this game while defending what i’d assume could be mislim bait if not scum.

[LegoLucy]

i don't like vibing with norwee so much

i mean it's probably an indicator he's town

but usually we fight eachother or he prematurely claims hider to make me mad or other shenanigans that are more fun than vibing

[Ydrasse]

fwiw i do share the same sentiment about pocketing btwn skitter/mena but i'm unsure if it's like... everyone is an outsider to their dynamic and seeing people interact that way is a little... idk, frustrating? it's a dynamic where you're like, oh, something is DEFINITELY going on there, why would they act like this (and if it's not this game, eventually they're gonna be in a game together and this'll be replicated if one of them is scum, having to go through this, and thus the worry becomes it's this game that it's happening)

and a lot of people seem to think this same thing but like, no one can really pinpoint /why/ it feels like pocketing so i'm kind of just assuming it's... fretting over something we don't Get?

[NorwegianboyEE]

i'm on a not-try-hard trajectory, which i think explains most of that, and if you are who i think you are you should be cognizant of that

and yes i understand that you guys aren't gonna like that i'm calling you out given the mutual townreading you have going on, but that's how i see it

Extreme frown

[Ydrasse]

i have no clue who i want to vote

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the interaction between mena/skitter is pretty common for the two of them in a game together.

mena literally has the same stance towards skitter every game.

and i dont see scum skitter brake pumping a mena mis elim this early in the game esp at a stacked table.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I didn't not propose he get hammered.
I temporarily had them closer to even as a kneejerk to the vote:vote: thing and wanted to be impulsive and run someone up to e1
Also how much should I pass on an opportunity to see one of my scumreads become the day's elims in the hope of eliminating a slot that like 3-5 people have said they would refuse to vote D1 regardless of apparent alignment? that's questionable one in hand two in bush logic

it felt to me like you smelled blood and were going in for the kill. :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like the mena case isnt that complicated

most of us have played with town mena

this doesnt look anything like town mena

so some people voted him

and skitter was like

no guys this isnt a good idea, hes probably just go RL issues or demotivated for *reasons*.

now you can say you know better - but like shes arguably the closest one to him at the table and does actually have some info.

unless somebody wants to say shes wrong about this

could it be shes wrong and we r in mena scum world?

yea sure

but we got 7 days till the deadline and i dont see why we dont give mena a few extra days or w/e just cuz he might be town here.

~.~

this is not in any way influenced by my desire to flirt more with skitter.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i also want to say (again) that i think that posting in an intentionally opaque fashion after other people have said it's hard to parse is scummy, even if it's a gimmick
(especially if it's a gimmick)

I’d argue the opposite.