Newbie 2057: Mars! - End!

[Kazyan]

I get the sinking feeling that if we're narrowing down the suspect pool to Skitter and Whemestar, I'm going to wake up tomorrow with you dead and the whole game will come down to whether I'm right about Whemestar. I know I got Creative right so I

should

have this, but I'm scared

[six pomegranate seeds]

I guess Skitter bringing up the "I'm really good at distancing" point could be a way to diffuse suspicion of a Creative/Skitter pair, but like you said, scum don't want to talk about their scumgame.

Andante said that actually. I wasn't totally sure it was true. I honestly talk about my scum game as either alignment as Skitter brings up later in the game.

The other thing that scared me about skitter is that she planted the seed in my head that creative was actually newer than I thought which made me ignore the red flags that he claimed cop after being on E-1 for 24 hours when he supposedly had a red that let me ignore the red flags and just write it off to "ah that guy is just a noob."

[skitter30]

do you guys need anything from me here?

[Kazyan]

Yeah, Creative brought up that he had experience in a non-forum setting really early in the game, way before you swapped in.

Skitter, who do you think is Creative's partner?

[six pomegranate seeds]

I did mess up, tbh I was gonna tank a kill after hoping to get a scum voted out because i realised at least one scum must have been hard defending samcro unless skitter was scum with him, I was also trying to bait a mafia into counter claiming me because I knew we were 2A and was hoping a mafia would cc me to stop their buddy being eliminated, to the scum that hard defended samcro, you could have got an easy miselim on him as he was acting so scummy, but I guess you have won anyway so gg but I won't vote myself, I think the quickhammer by wheme was scummy so I'd vote him

Uhhhhhh this makes literally no sense how would a mafia fake claim to save SAMCRO in final 7 if you were town lol, the game would literally be auto even if we voted you first. Anyways what Creative says from now on is WIFOM so I'll disregard it all.

[skitter30]

my best guess is wheme. like wheme >>>> seeds > kaz or so

i'm a little worried we do live in a universe where creative is town but:
- the game is over anyways
- that would mean it's like wheme + one of you two and i'm not sure how likely it is

creative having experience in a non-forum game doesn't always translate to kinda like ~knowing~ what to do in forum mafia
he could (and did) still read as new

[six pomegranate seeds]

do you guys need anything from me here?

Honestly the first thing that scumpinged me about you was after T3 died saying SAMCRO was an easy town you just really thought SAMCRO was still scum, it seemed to me like a really bad sus as a newcomer to the game. Can you just go through all of the factors that lead to you suspecting SAMCRO over the others?

And what made you say Wheme wouldn't night kill T3?

[Kazyan]

I was hoping that I'd get an answer like "definitely Seeds" so I could sort you as town--because, like, scum!Skitter wins if she can form a townblock against Whemestar here, but this also makes sense for town!Skitter :/

[skitter30]

i can, yes, but i'm going to put it off for a few hours until i'm at a a pc, if that's ok

~

as for wheme not killing t3, i didn't get any pr vibes off of t3, and he didn't have like any ~broad influence~ in the game, and he would be an easy push after day1 i thought, so i wouldn't have killed him there and i wouldn't have expected other experienced players to kill him there either

pedit indeed, sorry :(

[six pomegranate seeds]

also pom now you can kinda see why quickvoting doesn't necessarily help so much
we really should have let the full claim thing play out, but at least a vt ate the nk

Yeah, I really regretted after the hammer came. I honestly didn't mean for them to vote with me just that second, just eventually.

[skitter30]

indeed.
also if there actually is a tracker out there you wanna claim now?

[skitter30]

if he is scum he slipped thinking that we're in 2a, which means tracker, no?
and htey killed the one unclaimed person so

[six pomegranate seeds]

ngl the fact that they did kill andante almost does look like they were looking for an actual tracker

could be as well that she was just super obvtown but those are my thoughts

I was almost afraid mafia wheme/creative were going to kill me and then wheme would get andante to misvote on kaz using my idiotic EOD day 2 suspicions on kaz as a frame. It actually was kind of good I think in hindsite that andante never rr'd because I think her sus on kaz if she carried it into today could have lost town the game without making a good choice between skitter/wheme.

But yeah I think they had to kill andante because if she's tracker this game is just auto.

[six pomegranate seeds]

indeed.
also if there actually is a tracker out there you wanna claim now?

Okay my huge paragraph was a joke skitter I'm tracker and I saw you visit Andante

gg you tried

[Kazyan]

No claim. Still VT.

Speaking of that hammer, do we think Whemestar was trying to cut off conversation, or nah?

[Kazyan]

Okay my huge paragraph was a joke skitter I'm tracker and I saw you visit Andante

gg you tried

Seeds for the sake of my sanity I need you to clarify if you're joking or not

[skitter30]

No claim. Still VT.

Speaking of that hammer, do we think Whemestar was trying to cut off conversation, or nah?

ya kinda

Okay my huge paragraph was a joke skitter I'm tracker and I saw you visit Andante :lol:

gg you tried

Seeds for the sake of my sanity I need you to clarify if you're joking or not

it's a joke :lol:

[six pomegranate seeds]

Was hoping it could serve as a reaction test but I guess I went too full on into VT tunnel mode for it to work anymore lol

[six pomegranate seeds]

To be clear I am VT Kaz.

[skitter30]

well also i know i didn't go anywhere last night :)

[six pomegranate seeds]

I guess it really doesn't work at all because I as going on about wheme softing invest on d2.

WAIT it really doesn't work at all because mafia know there is no tracker LMAOOOOOOOOOO.

[six pomegranate seeds]

omg, I'm so embarrassed I'm town slipping so much : blush : haha do u guys think I'm town now?

- My roleplay of 1612 from mafia.gg

[six pomegranate seeds]

No claim. Still VT.

Speaking of that hammer, do we think Whemestar was trying to cut off conversation, or nah?

The hammer looks awful but I don't think you should read the game off of that because *shudders* it was too scummy to be scum. But actually maybe it looks really bad coming from an SE tbh, whereas the SAMCRO debacle d1 voting pooky was really actual too scummy to be scum

Actually its totally NAI I realize now because if Skitter is scum the mafia see they have no roleblockers or anything so there is no difference in waiting for andante to come back because they know no cc is coming and that they can always pull out a tracker RR at E-1 to last ditch live.

Damn I just realized this now I'm such an idiot I was like there is a 2/3 chance creative is town, if he's mafia he knows no cc is coming damnnnnnnnnn I am big time stupid

[Kazyan]

Thinking back on Skitter, if she's going for a hard-alignment strategy, she's been doing it for literally the entire game. I'm not sure if scum can play counter to their own playstyle consistently for that long, even SEs.

[skitter30]

right, if he's scum he knows there either should (if in 2a), or shouldn't (if in 2c) be a cc