In post 2531, Andresvmb wrote:I will grant you - there’s Scum on one side of that argument. So what if some of the players are part of the Scum Team, and are making reasonably sounding arguments against a player that just lashes out like VPB has in response to pressure? But then why did almost all of them backtrack? That’s quite astounding to me.
i mean, i don't have much more to tell you than "i don't know". things sometimes don't make sense. like literally less than a week ago i lost a game where 2/3 scum were nothing slots and the day 1 yeet was 7 towns voting for town and the whole game was confusing and a garbage fire. maybe they backtracked because they realized they cannot argue against baltar.
is midway saying that baltar's wagon analysis post is what made him reconsider bc it was trying too hard to be from scum...? but that was posted before he originally voted??
In post 2535, Andresvmb wrote: In post 2521, Datisi wrote:i don't know. maybe they're among the lurkers, it's hard to tell with so many inactives.
I’ve been thinking about this. Who do we have as lurkers this game? I’m guessing Dunn, Duchess/Cookie Monster, and Elements/DGB, right? To end D1, Elements was voting RLotus, Duchess had a vote that had been sitting on VPB for a long time (and they were getting replaced), and Dunn was voting midwaybear. It could very well be that midwaybear is Scum with two of those, and they are the only Scum on the Italiano wagon. That’s not something I’m willing to rule out. But I have already mentioned that I think Cookie Monster is Town and why for instance. Are we looking at a {Dunn, midwaybear, DGB} Scum Team? Possibly? It seems a bit far fetched no?
this again boils down to "fuck preflip". but (1) you think cookie monster is town, and i'm willing to let the claim sit for now because if she's really a doc, i don't wanna be doing scum's job for them and yeeting her when they might shoot her, but i'm far from convinced and (2) scum isn't always obvious. you've said it yourself, the scum team is rarely utterly incompetent. distancing and bussing is a thing. i (and probably a lot of other players here too) cannot effectively point that out early. like i've successfully called out a bussing vote before either flipped once(!!) in my almost two years of playing, and that was because both scum were potatoes. (maybe i'm just a shit player though. that's always a possibility.)
off the top of my head, while i have been very town on battle mage, momrangal could use a revisit. also i'd reread how strong was max's push on midway really. green's intent could maybe be bussing since he did have suspicions on midway earlier but didn't really vote him (iirc, which i might not even be). that'd mean midway was bussing green earlier, and like i'm *not* saying that's what happened, i'm illustrating a point that i don't think that slots in the game, at this stage, can be solved by trying to galaxy brain catch the whole scumteam.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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