Mini Normal 2200 | Game Over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its ok u think im scum

i think ur scum

cool

lets see whos right at the end

[Farkran]

I'm going to stop here, i think i have made my point clear

Pedit: yes thanks

[Ydrasse]

Ydra, r u ok?

y do u ask

[skitter30]

Pooky can you remind me what you think of day?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i havent really thought about him very much because i get very tunneled easily unfortunately :/

off top of my head i rememeber:

i thought his tr of lucy was strange.
i liked when he was talking to me about her alignment

I can do a re read of him when I have time tonight to iron out some thoughts.

[skitter30]

Fair enough. I'll actually read through you/farkran too later

[Menalque]

Ydra, r u ok?

y do u ask

u seem a lil diminished i guess

[Ydrasse]

in what sense

if it’s energy wise or game wise the answer is “yeah”

[skitter30]

Can we circle back to day and whether or not we should let the claim live? I'm still thinking no

[skitter30]

Also farkrans' defense of day post claim (~p114) feels kinda icky

[LegoLucy]

Pooky, I'm on mobile but your case in 2908 goes very different from how I selfdescribe playing scum. I emulate my townread and play to get townread. Do you disbelieve my self characterization of think it fits anyway. ? I'm curious which

[skitter30]

vaccinated.

whooo!!!!!

[skitter30]

My theory was that Day mentioned a crumb in the scum pt and Norwee forgot it wasn’t mentioned in the game

I do think Norwee/Day makes sense regardless

I think you're wrong here, but i'm open to hear your reasoning

Wrt day though i don't think it count as a crumb but that not's the point - scum!day has little reason to fakeclaim that role so it's probably true. Maybe scum!day makes up the disloyal part, but everything else is very likely part of his true role

I don't think this is scum!day though and norwee is still town to me, tell me why i am wrong

ig i'm kinda ambivalent about the claim being true or not but you seem to be implying that because it's true he's town? i'm not following that part

[skitter30]

it makes sense for scum!pooky not to oppose town!skitter regardless of mena alignment - i mean, pooky has been arfing at skitter's feet ever since page 5 or something, it would have been an immense scumtell if he went against her to vote town!mena, and if mena is scum all the better for him

like this isnt even about skitter scumreading me


he is saying it is a scum tell for me to vote/push skitters townreads

something which is objectively untrue.

i agree with you on this part

[LegoLucy]

Day's claim is really provable if he roleblocked a mafia tracker and we ask the mafia tracker politely to tell us whether they got a result

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky, I'm on mobile but your case in 2908 goes very different from how I selfdescribe playing scum. I emulate my townread and play to get townread. Do you disbelieve my self characterization of think it fits anyway. ? I'm curious which

I think you and I both enjoy getting our hands dirty and the thrill of killing townies when we play the red alignment.

Most people do not like getting their hands dirty, they are worried about being caught.

[skitter30]

I havent been *super* following aling tbf but i think this may be tvt

ok this i s still my conclusion
but if there's scum it's fark
i think pooky is very town here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

SS had a nice point about the disloyal part of Day's roleclaim

he can't actually block a town player and get away with it.

for example if a town cop or tracker gets roleblocked, they can come out against day.

also mafia would have to be informed that there are no town roleblockers for him to really attempt this kind of roleclaim? isn't it fairly common for a roleblocker to exist in a mini normal?

[skitter30]

eh i'm p sure i've seen normals with more than one rb
ss's point is decent tho

[LegoLucy]

i find lucys switch from kill mena scum to skitter is wk pocketing mena town to be incredibly unlikely

I shouldn't BoP you right

[skitter30]

maybe he's like a scum loyal rb

~
nsg had at least one normal game at some point where she had compulsive loyal scum aceticizers so although that would be, like, wacky af it's not beyond the queue so like :shrug:

i don't think the claim is important enough to let him live just by virtue of it existing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

eh i'm p sure i've seen normals with more than one rb
ss's point is decent tho

yea we just played in one lol

[skitter30]

yes that is indeed what i was thinking of lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe he's like a scum loyal rb

~
nsg had at least one normal game at some point where she had compulsive loyal scum aceticizers so although that would be, like, wacky af it's not beyond the queue so like :shrug:

i don't think the claim is important enough to let him live just by virtue of it existing

the downside is a lot like worse if he's actually town tho cuz he can get guilties?

I should get on that re-read of Day ISO

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i find lucys switch from kill mena scum to skitter is wk pocketing mena town to be incredibly unlikely

I shouldn't BoP you right

You know how amazingly accurate I am when I'm town :3