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[clidd]

Logically speaking, yeah, there is a cognitive dissonance in her reasoning in relation to the omgus.

[Amélie]

The defeatism is fake. Fake things don't always come from scum.
VOTE: Gretchen
Why did you latch on me the moment I called you scum?
I think the reason is because you are either DrippingGoofBall's scum buddy and you are trying to save them.
Or
DrippingGoofBall is town that you think is a mislim better saved for later.

DrippingGoofBall has constantly been scummy this entire game offering close to zero reasons to back up any of their thoughts. They are either scum or town that is playing poorly. Either way scum would want to save them here because they are either a scum buddy or not a threat to scum.

I admit my logic has been all over the place this game. However, you are the one constantly picking on that which I have felt weirdly about for a while now. There is no possible way you think town all have good logic and scum bad logic.

[clidd]

But I'm not convinced that it's necessarily coming from scum. Town can also be dissonant sometimes.

I mean, she can be scum, but i am not seeing her scum motivation in alluding to a primary sr but voting for a secondary sr. Scum!Amélie would at least have a basic notion that her vote would need to be in line with the reads/impressions she verbalized.

pedit: Hello.

[Gretchen]

am i the only seeing Amelie as obv maf now? she doesn't even have the timeline of who omgused who right lmao. the last line especially feels very fake

[clidd]

Amélie, I don't think I'm following your scumread on Grechen. It's relatively easy for town!Grechen to consider that AtE towny as well as antagonize your suspicion about she.

[Gretchen]

i also don't get her confidence in the defeatism being fake regardless of Goofy's alignment. why would town be faking that?

[clidd]

Alright, I'll take a break. Hope to see more people joining the discussion.

[bugspray]

VOTE: amelie
not checking if this is hammer, just voting

[VFP]

I can vote amelie here.
Town I feel like are Dann, Solon, Gretchen DGB and Lotus

VOTE: amelie
I think that's E1

[geraintm]

this feels like VFP trying to justify still voting for dripping goofball

I'm not voting DGB?

sorry, you are right. i'll rephrase it as a post where you were justifying keeping suspicion on them

@clidd 1215/1216
i'm not clear who this is aimed at

then the run on amelie
i confess, i've not looked at them much, they weren't on the wagon yesterday. i said in my post 1127, i asked them if they were new to the game as their posts just didn't seem to have any natural flow to them, they didn't make sense to me
i read their post 1126 and i still can't make sense of it

amelie, i think you are at the stage where i am going to bring up this

. I will try to check in every day but I guarantee nothing so if a claim is needed, I'll provide it now if two people reply within five minutes.

[geraintm]

btw, i think someone suggested i place a vote. it would normally be in the clump of people on yesterdays wagon that i hated, but even i think that is a vanity vote right now

[VFP]

sorry, you are right. i'll rephrase it as a post where you were justifying keeping suspicion on them

You will have to explain to me how by me saying DGB's visit makes sense as town there is a way to keep suspicion?
Surely to justify suspicion, I could just go with the 90% scum claim from Dann, and you know, shift the blame to Dann on a mis lynch?

This just feels lazy and posting to post on your side.
Or not paying attention to the game and possibly you actually thought I was voting DGB.
Either way, doesn't sit right.

[clidd]

1215/1216 is directed to Gretchen.

[RLotus]

amelie is so town

Gretchen's votes and pushes always feel unnatural and oppurtunistic to me. I would so want to shoot there if she wasn't a PR, but tbh I probably read her playstyle as scummy.

Dannflor I really want to know why you had so much confidence in DGB being scum if you aren't tracker, that is very fishy to me.

I seriously doubt Dann, DGB, and Gretchen are all town, that Amelie wagon is so bad.

[RLotus]

Town
clidd
bugspray
solon

townlean
Amelie

null
geraintm
alicek
VFP

PR clusterfuck
DGB
gretchen
Dann

[AliceK]

amelie is so town

Gretchen's votes and pushes always feel unnatural and oppurtunistic to me. I would so want to shoot there if she wasn't a PR, but tbh I probably read her playstyle as scummy.

Dannflor I really want to know why you had so much confidence in DGB being scum if you aren't tracker, that is very fishy to me.

I seriously doubt Dann, DGB, and Gretchen are all town, that Amelie wagon is so bad.

I think you are too sure she is Town and I can't really see much from her posts to indicate that. Imo you are distancing from Town lynch

VOTE: Rlotus

[Dannflor]

Dannflor I really want to know why you had so much confidence in DGB being scum if you aren't tracker, that is very fishy to me.

lol you're not gonna get me to claim

I came out of the day pushing DGB largely as a reaction test. The reaction I got seemed awful initially, but I've been reconsidering. When mafia NKs me you'll be able to see the info I got and conclude for yourselves whether DGB is scum.

Frankly, I thought it was suspicious that DGB was giving an explanation for why it visited the NK preemptively. But now I don't really think DGB!scum does that without knowing for sure it was tracked to the night kill

[Dannflor]

also like Rlotus it's really weird you're just lumping me in DGB into the same category when it's probably very unlikely we are ever scum buddies and yet you're doing nothing to decipher which one of us you think is more likely? Despite thinking scum must be among us?

idk it's weird

I actually like Alice's vote

VOTE: rlotus

[VFP]

Shouldn't Solon be on the lim list before Lotus? Regardless how you feel.

[Dannflor]

why solon

[Dannflor]

btw I was wrong to say all 4 of our roles couldn't be town

4 is like a standard number for the game of this size and they all seem to be (maybe?) fairly weak investigative roles

they are weird roles to all coexist but if this is all there is it's actually not unlikely

[VFP]

Because Solon has a town result on Lotus.
I'm not saying vote Solon, I'm saying it's a bad play to lim a spot with a town result on them.

[Dannflor]

I'm gonna be honest

it's finals week so that bit of information must have just leaked out of my brain

VOTE: amelie

I can do Alice too I suppose

[VFP]

I wouldn't be against an Alice vote if it come to it.
I feel like amelie is good right now though.

I'm open for discussion to why I'm voting wrong though.

[geraintm]

Because Solon has a town result on Lotus.
I'm not saying vote Solon, I'm saying it's a bad play to lim a spot with a town result on them.

Quickly poking in, but this was my immediate thought too