Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Cakez

Here you go Pooky. Enjoy your Cake.

[Titus]

@MathBlade Unless you are willing to discuss scum outside of me/Cakez/Dunn, please do not talk to me for 24 hours. I do not wish to have a conversation with someone who has no interest in talking about 3/4 of the game, engaging my read walls, or having a full and frank theoretical discussion about what the votes show. I do not want the same spammy discussion.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: cakez


Thanks MB :3

[penguin_alien]

Afternoon Vote Count 3.01

Afternoon 2 will end in (expired on 2021-03-24 18:17:50)

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to Bronze

Titus (3): Battle Mage, SirCakez, Prism
borkjerfkin (1): Bell
SirCakez (2): MathBlade, PookyTheMagicalBear

Not voting (6): Tammy, borkjerfkin, Titus, Spiffeh, GreyICE, Dunnstral

Mod notes:
9/70 pages used

[SirCakez]

Oh yeah! Spiffeh had no artifacts

And why did you check Spiffeh?

This should not be pulling teeth dude.

Because I've been suspicious of him all game? It's not rocket science

It is slightly odd that Cakez would be so stand-offish about revealing the night action and justification. Then again, it's a tough roleclaim to fake, in the long run, if you don't have it. Although could it, or a mechanically equivalent modification, be a scum role? Maybe.

One for the mech nerds in the peanut gallery

This is so dumb
I wasn't standoffish until Math was all "bro why are you making this so difficult" when I literally wasn't

No you were just hoping to not share.

Like I still don’t get why Spiffeh? Why not check the very tiny PoE?

Your check is very odd.

What is the "tiny PoE"? I asked for input yesterday and nobody gave any, so I went on a check of someone who was not in the elim pool but could feasibly be scum. Like a Cop check.

I'll be reassessing Grey but thinking through this again with Math, there's no way Cakez or Dunn is scum.

So that means Pooky and/or Math are.
Battle Mage is still scum.

If one of my hero solve is wrong, I'll look for that in my VCA. In fact, I usually scumread a townbeard based on my VCA, so that's a thing.

I hate how Titus keeps saying she is going to reevaluate but never actually does it.

There's a part of me that thinks she'd have more fire as scum whereas here she almost seems ready to roll over and be eliminated.

She does that as scum Tammy.

Hey Tammy, Prism, Cakez, I know you guys have been engaging me a fair amount this game so that's great but all three of you keep saying if anyone's getting one over on you as scum it's me (Cakez has been more directly suspicious of me) so maybe if we can hash that out and you can mention your specific concerns for me to address that would make you feel better? I don't want to make this a big thing or waste pages on it but I'm townreading all three of you fairly confidently and feel it would be best if you all felt the same about me.

The three of you repeatedly stating your paranoia of me plus the "scum reads" from bork and Dunn are starting to irritate me and I don't want to become demotivated as a result.

My last three completed games on the site were scum games. I was, and am, exhausted of playing scum. Rolling scum in Pooky vs. FL and Tenet at the same time really damaged my enthusiasm to play it and if I were scum here I GUARANTEE I would not have provided one quarter of the content I have provided here. I don't think I've ever been this open and in depth as Town before but I was so excited I got a green PM in THIS playerlist that I wanted to actually hunt scum which is something I haven't been able to do for like a year.

Maybe this is unfair to unload on you guys because I know you're all just playing the game, and maybe it won't even accomplish that much but for the sake of more cohesiveness between myself and my town reads I would appreciate if you'd directly address your concerns rather than stew in paranoia until endgame, assuming we get there and any of us are still alive by then.

I do feel better since you had no artifacts and I feel you would have one by now if scum.
I just keep seeing posts from you where it looks like you have that "scum demotivation" you acknowledge you have had as a result of rolling scum so much lately.
And I'm concerned by how concerned you are about being scumread.

[SirCakez]

Dunn's posting so far today has been awful

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: borkjerfkin

[Tammy]

She does that as scum Tammy.

Can you point out where?

I don't think I've ever seen that be a part of her scum game.

[SirCakez]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=85257
Check out this game Tammy

[SirCakez]

VOTE: borkjerfkin

what triggered this?

[Titus]

She does that as scum Tammy.

Can you point out where?

I don't think I've ever seen that be a part of her scum game.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=85257
Check out this game Tammy

I never accepted my miseliminination there. I searched with "mis" and "my" in my ISO to ensure that. I never called anyone toxic because no one was. I did push against a townblock with a solid PoE.

Why did you quote this game at all?

[Tammy]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=85257
Check out this game Tammy

I didn't notice where she gave up though.

What am I missing?

[SirCakez]

She didn't give up but she has that tone where it feels like she's gonna roll over though, I feel

[SirCakez]

She does that as scum Tammy.

Can you point out where?

I don't think I've ever seen that be a part of her scum game.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=85257
Check out this game Tammy

I never accepted my miseliminination there. I searched with "mis" and "my" in my ISO to ensure that. I never called anyone toxic because no one was. I did push against a townblock with a solid PoE.

Why did you quote this game at all?

I never said you did any of these things?

[Prism]

Just quote a few posts and explain, pretty natural reaction from Titus regardless of her alignment to just Ctrl+F.

Nobody is going to read through that long-ass game. Make your point.

[Titus]

If I was queen, I would flashwagon Dunn but that's a long shot. Cakez is the next best thing. I also disagree with the scummy people want Cakez dead (minus Dunn) but ine busser is to be expected.

Titus, Dunnstral has just become a viable wagon.

It's time for you to get your revenge on those that have persecuted you all this time.

It's time.

VOTE: Dunn

Yeah it was Spiffeh who tried to convince me to vote Dunn shortly after getting off mastina.

[Titus]

Town: {Bell, sangres, Tammy, Mathblade, Kitty Trauma Team}
Townlean: {SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Prism, LLD*}
Null: {Pooky, mastina, Titus, GreyICE}
Scumlean: {quiet, Battle Mage}
Scum: {Dunnstral}

Mastina is null in his ISO here.

He compromises on her 300 posts later while praying for a nacho save.

He doesn't push mastina at all and jumps off when Dunn becomes a thing.

Counterpoint: He was scumreading Dunn heavily.

[SirCakez]

Just quote a few posts and explain, pretty natural reaction from Titus regardless of her alignment to just Ctrl+F.

Nobody is going to read through that long-ass game. Make your point.

Her ISO in that game only has 50 posts it's not hard to look through it
I'll grab some example though

[SirCakez]

ok re-doing ISO on Titus that game and I realize that was not the best example
my memory was wrong

[MathBlade]

@MathBlade Unless you are willing to discuss scum outside of me/Cakez/Dunn, please do not talk to me for 24 hours. I do not wish to have a conversation with someone who has no interest in talking about 3/4 of the game, engaging my read walls, or having a full and frank theoretical discussion about what the votes show. I do not want the same spammy discussion.

Why would I do this?
There is almost certainly > 75% chance one of you is scum.
Why would I talk outside that area and give scum a chance to breathe?

[Titus]

@MathBlade Unless you are willing to discuss scum outside of me/Cakez/Dunn, please do not talk to me for 24 hours. I do not wish to have a conversation with someone who has no interest in talking about 3/4 of the game, engaging my read walls, or having a full and frank theoretical discussion about what the votes show. I do not want the same spammy discussion.

Why would I do this?
There is almost certainly > 75% chance one of you is scum.
Why would I talk outside that area and give scum a chance to breathe?

Please do not engage me further if unwilling to discuss the rest of the game. This is a simple request.

[Titus]

@Cakez/Prism, talk to me about Spiffeh?

[MathBlade]

Oh yeah! Spiffeh had no artifacts

And why did you check Spiffeh?

This should not be pulling teeth dude.

Because I've been suspicious of him all game? It's not rocket science

It is slightly odd that Cakez would be so stand-offish about revealing the night action and justification. Then again, it's a tough roleclaim to fake, in the long run, if you don't have it. Although could it, or a mechanically equivalent modification, be a scum role? Maybe.

One for the mech nerds in the peanut gallery

This is so dumb
I wasn't standoffish until Math was all "bro why are you making this so difficult" when I literally wasn't

No you were just hoping to not share.

Like I still don’t get why Spiffeh? Why not check the very tiny PoE?

Your check is very odd.

What is the "tiny PoE"? I asked for input yesterday and nobody gave any, so I went on a check of someone who was not in the elim pool but could feasibly be scum. Like a Cop check.

I'll be reassessing Grey but thinking through this again with Math, there's no way Cakez or Dunn is scum.

So that means Pooky and/or Math are.
Battle Mage is still scum.

If one of my hero solve is wrong, I'll look for that in my VCA. In fact, I usually scumread a townbeard based on my VCA, so that's a thing.

I hate how Titus keeps saying she is going to reevaluate but never actually does it.

There's a part of me that thinks she'd have more fire as scum whereas here she almost seems ready to roll over and be eliminated.

She does that as scum Tammy.

Hey Tammy, Prism, Cakez, I know you guys have been engaging me a fair amount this game so that's great but all three of you keep saying if anyone's getting one over on you as scum it's me (Cakez has been more directly suspicious of me) so maybe if we can hash that out and you can mention your specific concerns for me to address that would make you feel better? I don't want to make this a big thing or waste pages on it but I'm townreading all three of you fairly confidently and feel it would be best if you all felt the same about me.

The three of you repeatedly stating your paranoia of me plus the "scum reads" from bork and Dunn are starting to irritate me and I don't want to become demotivated as a result.

My last three completed games on the site were scum games. I was, and am, exhausted of playing scum. Rolling scum in Pooky vs. FL and Tenet at the same time really damaged my enthusiasm to play it and if I were scum here I GUARANTEE I would not have provided one quarter of the content I have provided here. I don't think I've ever been this open and in depth as Town before but I was so excited I got a green PM in THIS playerlist that I wanted to actually hunt scum which is something I haven't been able to do for like a year.

Maybe this is unfair to unload on you guys because I know you're all just playing the game, and maybe it won't even accomplish that much but for the sake of more cohesiveness between myself and my town reads I would appreciate if you'd directly address your concerns rather than stew in paranoia until endgame, assuming we get there and any of us are still alive by then.

I do feel better since you had no artifacts and I feel you would have one by now if scum.
I just keep seeing posts from you where it looks like you have that "scum demotivation" you acknowledge you have had as a result of rolling scum so much lately.
And I'm concerned by how concerned you are about being scumread.

I mean I gave feedback multiple times and explained repeatedly scum has to be off the Mastina wagon. So you checking on the wagon is puzzling. Then trying to spin it around and say what PoE despite me screaming it for literally a week is dumb.

[SirCakez]

I just keep seeing posts from you where it looks like you have that "scum demotivation" you acknowledge you have had as a result of rolling scum so much lately.
And I'm concerned by how concerned you are about being scumread.

@Titus what do you think?

[SirCakez]

that is in regards to Spiffeh