Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[MathBlade]

Because artifact transfers happen at night in the OP.

He’s saying that didn’t happen

Assuming you’re truthtelling You submit by end of day.
<< Spiffeh would receive artifact here
You get results end of night.

[MathBlade]

I received it at the start of Afternoon today.

Upon receipt, a player may choose to interact with one Artifact in their possession per game phase. They may either use it or transfer the selected Artifact to another player rather than using it. This counts as the player's Artifact interaction for the night.

Transfers may only be performed during the Night phase.

If transferred, the recipient will be informed of the Artifact's Power and Negative Effect. They may also use any non-Artifact actions they have from their role, including the factional kill if Mafia. There is a limit of one non-factional kill role action used per player per phase.

Uhm how Spiffeh?

<< this here

[SirCakez]

I submit at day time and get results at end of day not at night

[MathBlade]

I submit at day time and get results at end of day not at night

?? That seems really dumb when Transfers only happen at night.

[MathBlade]

Hey does anyone want to post their reads and more content to see if we can get Bell’s response to when get back to see if we can reaction test him? If you think he is town it’s win win

[MathBlade]

I also have asked a question to the mod too but I don’t want to spoil Bell’s reaction if true.

[Battle Mage]

spiffeh got an artefact during the day today? to support Cakez' claim...sort of?

eh, i don't love it. but Titus' reaction in 3449 is worse

[Battle Mage]

Tammy, who do you think is scum?

I'm leaning Pooky, GreyICE and Spiffeh.

no more BM? I was like confscum a couple pages ago?

[Battle Mage]

Oh right.

Help me bus Spiffeh?

I wanna see what Bell says first and then think about this slowly to find the scum here.
Some made a mistake somewhere and I wanna find out what.

err why did Bell transfer an item to spiffeh in the middle of day? but more importantly, if spiffeh was scum...why admit that?

im confused, Mathblade help me out with the technical stuff.

[Spiffeh]

It's almost like

None of this matters

[MathBlade]

Oh right.

Help me bus Spiffeh?

I wanna see what Bell says first and then think about this slowly to find the scum here.
Some made a mistake somewhere and I wanna find out what.

err why did Bell transfer an item to spiffeh in the middle of day? but more importantly, if spiffeh was scum...why admit that?

im confused, Mathblade help me out with the technical stuff.

The answer is I am confused.

The OP says artifacts are only transferred at night.

Which makes it incredibly silly for scum to lie about.

I want to see Bell’s response to this.

The mod obviously cannot lie.

I want to see if Bell says either A or B. A or B are town reactions.

A or B should not be said before Bell responds and require different responses.

[Battle Mage]

where did Bell claim to transfer the item during the day?

i guess the simplest explanations would be either the Mod got it wrong in the OP, or Spiffeh and Bell are just scum? But both surprise me so I probably missed something key.

[Battle Mage]

oh yeah, i also forgot to claim this earlier (because i forgot i had it) - but one aspect of my role is that I'm a miller and come up guilty to all investigations. just an FYI i guess, as nobody has claimed to investigate me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you picked a miller card?

[MathBlade]

where did Bell claim to transfer the item during the day?

i guess the simplest explanations would be either the Mod got it wrong in the OP, or Spiffeh and Bell are just scum? But both surprise me so I probably missed something key.

Bell can be town depending upon how he answers. I scumread him so I kinda want to hold back and make sure it’s not a I am tunnelled moment.

I agree neither conclusion seems to work so I kinda wanna see Bell’s response.

So I don’t want to spoil it by talking too much.

[Battle Mage]

you picked a miller card?

i dunno what that means? but i think ur always meant to claim if ur a miller and i forgot lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh wait I got confused what game we were in hahaha

ignore that comment rofl

[Bell]

Item was distributed at end of morning. There are other ways to distribute artifacts. The idea that spiffeh and I are scum together and gambiting is itself just a ploy to get more information out of people probably.. or he’s misplaying. Either wouldn’t shock me.
I just got off from work so I don’t have the full context behind what is being said.

[Titus]

Tammy, who do you think is scum?

I'm leaning Pooky, GreyICE and Spiffeh.

no more BM? I was like confscum a couple pages ago?

My foundation was off for calling you scum. Prism pointed that out to me. I still don't like you not having any solid townreads but your votes don't make you confscum.

[Bell]

Yeah it just looks like he’s rules lawyering because he can’t get momentum otherwise and this is a pretty good point of leverage/opportunity.

[MathBlade]

Item was distributed at end of morning. There are other ways to distribute artifacts. The idea that spiffeh and I are scum together and gambiting is itself just a ploy to get more information out of people probably.. or he’s misplaying. Either wouldn’t shock me.
I just got off from work so I don’t have the full context behind what is being said.

...The OP says artifacts are distributed only at night.

What part of reading the OP is rules lawyering?

[MathBlade]

Mod has confirmed that I received the artifact at the correct time, after morning and before afternoon

This is literally impossible per the OP.

[Battle Mage]

Item was distributed at end of morning. There are other ways to distribute artifacts. The idea that spiffeh and I are scum together and gambiting is itself just a ploy to get more information out of people probably.. or he’s misplaying. Either wouldn’t shock me.
I just got off from work so I don’t have the full context behind what is being said.

Mod

- can you please confirm if it is mechanically possible for artifacts to be transferred outside of the night phase/morning vote mechanic?

if no, we can just elim the liars.

if yes, think we need to start pinning people down to explanations for why they are moving items around. and someone needs to do a storyboard to work out whose account doesnt fit.

[MathBlade]

What information am I trying to get here?

I don’t want to know what the artifact does:

I just want to know if the thing you passed is an artifact or not,

And when you passed it.

That’s it.

[Bell]

I received it at the start of Afternoon today.

Upon receipt, a player may choose to interact with one Artifact in their possession per game phase. They may either use it or transfer the selected Artifact to another player rather than using it. This counts as the player's Artifact interaction for the night.

Transfers may only be performed during the Night phase.

If transferred, the recipient will be informed of the Artifact's Power and Negative Effect. They may also use any non-Artifact actions they have from their role, including the factional kill if Mafia. There is a limit of one non-factional kill role action used per player per phase.

Uhm how Spiffeh?

<< this here

This is pretty selective reading. It starts with “upon receipt,” which I won’t go into further since I’ve already revealed enough. In general no, you’re wrong.