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[Gypyx]

Searching a replacement for BBmolla

[Toogeloo]

And for the umpteenth-millionth time. What I did last night had no bearing on the night action resolution involving kills, redirects, or protections.

You already know I picked inventor night 2 and sent a hider gift to Pooky that same night, and the inventor was given to me by Not Mafia, so he knows what other gifts was in it as well. You also know that I very likely only had Vanilla packs given to me the last two night since I claimed as much.

The only thing you don't know is what I picked on Night 1. I still have it. It's unlimited use. You don't get to know what it is.

Mastina is just a gut vote right now in lieu of waiting for an actual case.

I'm actually starting to think VFP might be scum though just based on play.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: A50

My PoE is technically everyone not VFP.
Second level probably town is Mastina, BBMolla, and Pooky. >> The reason being if their partner ever goes down then the PoE shrinks rather dramatically and it is a silly choice unless widely townread.
Next level is A50/Not Mafia/you. >> These positions either have not claimed anything or have claimed suspicious things that can easily be swapped out for the second bus driver.

A50 and BBMolla both said they are awaiting my content.

At the same time I do kinda think there’s gotta be scum in you and A50 (if not both) because I have a hard time believing two town slots would both give inventions to people not Mastina (who iirc is a top townread at that point)

So it can realistically be a mix but I kinda like A50,NM, or you for an elim today.

[MathBlade]

@Mod: I am sorry to do this but I need to request replacement.

Stepping away for a while.

Ugh pedits damn it. Will miss you Molla

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh snap tooges sent me a hider gift

TOOGES MY BROTHER BEAR IS LOCKTOWN

[VFP]

I still think Toog is town here.
What was the out come to mastinas post?

[Not_Mafia]

I did not have an inventor

[Toogeloo]

Yeah, my bad. Forgot clidd died, so I got my packs from Pizza, and Math didn't.

Math got his packs from Shadowslug/VFP.

Molla just replaced out, so got to wait for the replacement to confirm passing Bus Driver to VFP.

Anyways, the point I was trying to make earlier is that given all information that was claimed, and the resolution still seems gummed up, someone is lying, ergo try solving in another way.

[Toogeloo]

Pizza had a 1-shot deflector, was that taken into consideration?

And I feel like this might be one if those games where I go through the gamut of suspicions. Could Pooky and Pizza be doing scum theater all game? Pooky couldn't have resolved hiding behind pizza, or Pooky would have needed additional protection.

[MathBlade]

I still think Toog is town here.
What was the out come to mastinas post?

None of this makes sense.

We would need a jailkeep on Mastina and a doctor on Pooky and a redirector unclaimed.

None of that makes sense

[MathBlade]

Pizza had a 1-shot deflector, was that taken into consideration?

And I feel like this might be one if those games where I go through the gamut of suspicions. Could Pooky and Pizza be doing scum theater all game? Pooky couldn't have resolved hiding behind pizza, or Pooky would have needed additional protection.

Yes I explained above why that doesn’t make sense and scum need their own additional bus drive/redirect

[Almost50]

VOTE: A50

Sheeping Mathblade, although I am totally convinced this A50 guy is Town (but I'm not allowed to disclose mod communications, so you're going to have to take my word for it)

Like, seriously.. this isn't TM, so I won't be made to effort beyond this level. You want to lose? Fine. It won't be the first time you lead the Town off a cliff with your stubbornness (no disrespect)

[MathBlade]

I am just asking for your opinion after I gave my work.

I just voting you for pressure so I can hunt
I am aware sometimes I am dumb so going slow

[Almost50]

I am just asking for your opinion after I gave my work.

You didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. I already theorized the mastina/you/BBM thing and I failed to explain the pizza kill or the Pooky survival. I even did say "unless someone is lying" which you also included in your work sheet. Now how does all this make me look suspicious? I have no idea. And why would I even lie about my actions? The first one was Motion Detect on Toog (I don't even know if that was claimed): No Motion. The second one was a Track shot I gave to BBMm and he confirmed. Last night I had a Personal Watcher (which canNOT detect a factional ability) so I used in on N_M and no one visited him (at least not with a personal ability). I don't even see a reason for me to lie about any of these as either alignment.

N_M says he suspects my slot because of my predecessor which I accepted with a grain of salt (I didn't even ISO my predecessor), but you are basing your case on my actions (or my slot's actions) which is even thinner than N_M's reasoning.

The good news is I am Vanilla (as we all are) who had already spent all their acquired abilities, so you are technically yeeting a VT if you do. No big deal, although I would rather we flipped a red role today.

[Almost50]

UNVOTE:

I don't think I'm being too productive, but it does get to me when a confirmed townie decides to single me out.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: unvote

Will look after work I just my head hurts

[MathBlade]

I am kinda feeling Pooky Toog.

Just by play.

Thoughts?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im conftown

i had pizza people dead to rights and you guys didnt listen to me

if i am ever elimmed by town this game it will be a harder throw than town ignoring me for 3 days while i said pizza pizza was definitely scum

[MathBlade]

That doesn’t make you conf town though.

The issue I have is that no matter how I shake it you have to be scum because no doctor claims.

There’s no bus drive deflection scenario that works.

Even if we assume any bus driver deflection combo and assume VFP is scum here it just doesn’t work.

Say Pizza was bus driven with say me for example. You’d be hiding behind me.

Then scum attempt to shoot me and which causes them to kill Pizza.

This while it would work mechanically doesn’t work with the claims because it requires VFP scum and scum intentionally kill Pizza.

Do you see what accepting town you requires?

[MathBlade]

Wait a minute.

Scum Busdrive me and Pizza
Town Busdrive me and Molla

I think that might work maybe ugh how would a double work fuck.

[MathBlade]

Then if Mastina is scum she blocks both BBMolla and Pizza.
No deflection happens that makes math simple.

Pooky ends up hiding behind me.
Scum shoot Molla and the kill ends up bus driven to me which then gets bus driven again to Pizza.

I think that works maybe?

[MathBlade]

So then ironically enough we are looking for one bus driver additional if Mastina is scum.

[MathBlade]

Lemme ask the mod how that would resolve tomorrow.

I think that’s how maybe.

Or maybe scum just block pizza

Did I mention how much I hate bus drivers and redirectors?

[VFP]

Reading you try and work this out hurts my head.
All I know is I'm going to find it hard to call Pooky scum here, Math and BBmolla most likely town just from what happened last night.
Toog most likely town.

I'm concerned with A50 who wanted to put no effort into the game and then looks worried when getting votes.

[MathBlade]

VOTE: Not Mafia

Come play and do something.

When unsure elim a lurker I guess?