Mini Theme 2198: Animals Upick 2 [Game Over]

ISO · Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:57 am

In post 1898, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:thanks to Xtox for stepping in!

this setup was very beautiful and nice

very much this. thanks for picking it up!

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:57 am

In post 1899, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1891, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:there's no way a closed setup with a scum dayvig is townsided lol
nah disagree. coz even if the dayvig lives and shoots...clearly once everyone's claimed, the possibility of a scum dayvig isn't going to seem that implausible. it gave us 1 extra kill, and a reasonable fakeclaim, but that's it.

uh you're just wrong here lol

Battle Mage · Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:57 am

In post 1895, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the 1 shot part was bulletproof

she was a permanent bodyguard

lol why didnt you tell me that!? I said tell me everything you know about the mech before you die? ffs

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:58 am

scum vig is already very unlikely to be elimmed

scum dayvig is like very very unlikely to get elimmed

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:58 am

In post 1903, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1895, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the 1 shot part was bulletproof

she was a permanent bodyguard
lol why didnt you tell me that!? I said tell me everything you know about the mech before you die? ffs

i didnt think i needed to tell you what she claimed in the thread dude lol

Battle Mage · Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:59 am

In post 1902, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1899, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1891, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:there's no way a closed setup with a scum dayvig is townsided lol
nah disagree. coz even if the dayvig lives and shoots...clearly once everyone's claimed, the possibility of a scum dayvig isn't going to seem that implausible. it gave us 1 extra kill, and a reasonable fakeclaim, but that's it.
uh you're just wrong here lol

nah disagree. the dayvig had to fire on day 2? you dont think town is going to look at that slot in ExLo? plus there was so much hidden mechanics to fall into. i'm convinced it was super scumsided and nobody will convince me otherwise - i lived it.

Battle Mage · Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:59 am

you're assuming this is a normalish game, which it isnt. people are gonna be suspicious if the dayvig lives until day 5

Battle Mage · Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:00 am

In post 1905, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1903, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1895, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the 1 shot part was bulletproof

she was a permanent bodyguard
lol why didnt you tell me that!? I said tell me everything you know about the mech before you die? ffs
i didnt think i needed to tell you what she claimed in the thread dude lol

*shrug* it wasn't clear to me from the way the claim was phrased. you still could've told me, but w/e. man this was shit.

jjh927 · Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:02 am

I think there were exactly 2 powerful roles on the town side- Mastina's role, and Mad Hatter's role. My role only got a guilty from some inventive gambitting and the fact that scum tried to NK me two nights in a row while Mastina protected me

Scum dayvig is almost incomprehensibly strong

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:03 am

In post 1906, Battle Mage wrote:nah disagree. the dayvig had to fire on day 2? you dont think town is going to look at that slot in ExLo? plus there was so much hidden mechanics to fall into. i'm convinced it was super scumsided and nobody will convince me otherwise - i lived it.

the day vig can very easily become a town leader and force mis-elims thru.

Battle Mage · Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:03 am

In post 1896, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:This was an incredible game and setup.

Many thanks, once again to Xtoxm to stepping in for us.

For what it's worth, I was heavily debating aiming at someone I had a strong townread on, or using the shot - as I did - upon someone I suspect.

Kudos to you as well, Battle Mage. you played well.

A final observation on balance - if you have a 13 player game, where the scum team's chances are reliant on 1 player surviving to the end, it's not a good sign.

PS: Sorry you died Fuzzy....

the only silver linings are:

I didn't get killed by noraa
It was over quick

Mad Hatters Tea Party · Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:04 am

I consider mine to be quite conditional.

If I had hit town, they would have a neighbour hood while I have a confirmation.
Hitting scum is where the maximum power of my potential was, and I was most fortunate to meet that potential.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:04 am

In post 1907, Battle Mage wrote:you're assuming this is a normalish game, which it isnt. people are gonna be suspicious if the dayvig lives until day 5

ok sure but like think of how many mis-elims you can force thru as a scum day-vig.

its like default leadership position

Battle Mage · Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:04 am

also thanks MHTP!

Mad Hatters Tea Party · Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:05 am

I am most thankful that in the theatrical and rather absurd nature of the caricature I play upon this account made crumbing so much easier.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1916 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:06 am

the power of a scum day-vig is you get an extra kill and you also can force mis-elims thru by seizing thread control as a semi-confirmed role.

also mastina being a bulletproof bodyguard can easily explain why fuzzy would survive long.

Battle Mage · Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:06 am

In post 1913, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1907, Battle Mage wrote:you're assuming this is a normalish game, which it isnt. people are gonna be suspicious if the dayvig lives until day 5
ok sure but like think of how many mis-elims you can force thru as a scum day-vig.

its like default leadership position

maybe, but this is a weird setup, so I dunno. even if fuzzy survives day 1, mastina/SS are still townleaders on Day 2 I think, even with the dayvig.

fundamentally, mafia is a game about an informed minority, and here we were not remotely informed in the context of the whole game (partly due to our own ineptitude admittedly) *grumbles*

anyway i'm salty dude, just let me moan

Mad Hatters Tea Party · Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:10 am

I believe that in my own configurations and compositions additional kills seem to grant a great amount of weight to a faction, that there was an additional kill potential amongst the mafia faction seems to imply some quite heavy bias towards them.

Battle Mage · Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:13 am

In post 1916, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the power of a scum day-vig is you get an extra kill and you also can force mis-elims thru by seizing thread control as a semi-confirmed role.

also mastina being a bulletproof bodyguard can easily explain why fuzzy would survive long.

i'd argue lots of roles in this game were easily confirmable, and there's fundamentally no reason why a dayvig would be any less likely to be scum than many of them. Let's just agree to disagree lol I'm sure most people will see it your way, but for me I don't think I'd have fancied my chances winning this game even as a scum dayvig, with both my teammates gone by Night 2.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:14 am

I mean I literally told you he needed to claim when he was on 2 votes because he was going to get flashwagonned at deadline and you said it was impossible to happen

so im not sure why you're disagreeing with me now...

Battle Mage · Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:15 am

in fairness, the game was advertised as being swingy, so it's not a complaint really. it just sucked that we took a massive swing on Day 1.

hopefully there's not an award for worst scumteam performance

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:16 am

yea let's just mail it in and forget this ever happened

i was so tilted lolol

jjh927 · Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:17 am

In post 1921, Battle Mage wrote:in fairness, the game was advertised as being swingy, so it's not a complaint really. it just sucked that we took a massive swing on Day 1.

hopefully there's not an award for worst scumteam performance

I haven't made the muckies yet but maybe one day

Battle Mage · Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:17 am

In post 1920, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I mean I literally told you he needed to claim when he was on 2 votes because he was going to get flashwagonned at deadline and you said it was impossible to happen

so im not sure why you're disagreeing with me now...

yep i admitted at the time I was wrong on that! Just because I was wrong once, doesn't mean I'm always wrong. Also, it's not solely my fault Fuzzy died Day 1 - like you could've done something too?