Your play does not reflect this whatsoever.In post 2818, Datisi wrote:i'm not saying it's "just paranoia", like i'm not stupid i see my pushes have flipped town and why that would be suspicious.
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You know what I think? I think we’ve given too many of the quieter slots too much leeway to behave in the way that they have.
At this stage, I want an execution in {Momrangal, DGB, Dunn}. If for whatever reason all of us have just been off and are overly paranoid about each other (and I mean RLotus, VPB, Datisi, Me), and we’re actually Town here, we need to punish the slots that are also still ending up on Town. I would like to start with Momrangal, who very clearly had a Scummy vote last night and has a perspective that doesn’t make any sense to me, and they conveniently refuse to update.- Andresvmb
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And Datisi, this counts as defending to me slightly. I really want you to look a little closer there.In post 2647, Datisi wrote:momrangal is probably town, however i've heard that battle mage's scumgame is actually Not Shit, so should probably look at that to see if his entrance really was out of his scumrange.- RLotus
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Yes I made incorrect pushes, but I am able to see when I am wrong and my world view is constantly shifting. I softened on Italiano and flipped my read on both you and andre.In post 2824, VP Baltar wrote:Speaking of which, Lotus, can I ask you how you feel you've played this game? Like I"m thinking about all the people you say have OMGUSed you, and by your own measures, only one of those people are scum. That feels like a lot of hard pushing on town players. You've agreed with andres that I'm fucking up because of bad pushes (which I don't disagree with), but your own pushes have been bad too, right? What makes you so confident this time?
Compare this to Datisi who has continually been wrong. His world view should have crumbled by now, yet his view has not notably shifted. He's still got pretty much the same town block as yesterday.
Why am I confident? Because the game state is much clearer and people's behavior is more fleshed out. Obviously day 1 it is going to be much harder to find someone being explicitly scummy. I believe Datisi scumminess is apparent.- Andresvmb
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If there was the potential that Cookie get executed during the day, wouldn’t Scum want to take advantage of that? I would argue that’s at least something I would explore as Scum.In post 2812, Datisi wrote:but you're not looking at the bigger picture here. i never voted cookie, and i instantly said not to actually verify her claim / push her when it came up and agreed to give her a day or so. like attacking the doctor in hindsight doesn't look good, obviously. but why the fuck does scum!me do it? to point attention at myself and how much i think the claim is bad, only to then... nightkill her anyway?- Andresvmb
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My statement that not all of you can be Town or I would be floored remains true. Out of the three (You, VPB, Datisi), I would place Datisi as the most likely to flip Scum. But I am so tired of this argument and I think it’s been focused on at enough length. We need to scrutinize the other slots.In post 2829, RLotus wrote:Why am I confident? Because the game state is much clearer and people's behavior is more fleshed out. Obviously day 1 it is going to be much harder to find someone being explicitly scummy. I believe Datisi scumminess is apparent.- Andresvmb
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I still believe that Dunn isn’t going to flip Scum because of how the votes piled up and the fact that it was a rehash of D1 basically. But where are they?!
If Momrangal is Town, for some reason, are we giving Green Crayons a pass here? Is Green Crayons using their ability to pocket Town players? I want to revisit that slot, because RTPs suspicions are still in the back of my head. And we know Duchess/Cookie Monster, and Italiano are Town, and so the escalation and doggedness behind that argument still bothers me.- Momrangal
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Why so you keep doing this thing of shutting me out instead of actually trying to gauge my actual headspace?
Why do you keep going
NOPE YOU'RE GETTING ELIMINATED THATS IT THATS ALL
Instead of trying to talk things out
No one is holding suspicion of you other than me, why am I so dangerous that you want to not talk to me?- Andresvmb
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Maxwell is voting you.In post 2833, Momrangal wrote:No one is holding suspicion of you other than me, why am I so dangerous that you want to not talk to me?- Andresvmb
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RTP, voted for Dunn in the early part of D2 which I have been pointing is a slight rehash of D1.In post 2835, Andresvmb wrote:Green Crayons has a lot of votes on Town actually. Cookie Monster, obviously midwaybear.- Andresvmb
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So then I’m not the only suspecting you.
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It directly contradicts what you said. maxwell has also directly expressed the reasoning behind their SR I believe.
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Here.In post 2579, maxwell wrote:So, remind me again why Battle Mage was obvtown? Because I hate the hell out of that hammer and everything momrangal has done.
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You have me as Scum. I’ve engaged you. As far as I can tell, you haven’t changed your mind about me. So why would I keep bothering trying to convince you of the obvious?In post 2833, Momrangal wrote:Why so you keep doing this thing of shutting me out instead of actually trying to gauge my actual headspace?- Andresvmb
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I thought you were saying I was the only person suspecting you.In post 2842, Momrangal wrote:am the only person suspectingIyou
How does his suspicion of me contradict that?
And honestly your suspicion of me is just bad play or Scum at this point. Reconsider your stances thinking I’m Town and I’ll pay attention to you. Otherwise you’re just wasting my time.- Momrangal
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I mean if you call two seconds of engagement actual engagement sure.
Every time I try to get you to talk deeper about things, and go deep into it you are turning around and going "nope fuck this"
If I am wrong about you, you know I need to engage to get it cleared up
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You haven’t asked me any questions. You’ve only made bad meta arguments against me. I don’t know what more engagement you were expecting from me.In post 2845, Momrangal wrote:I mean if you call two seconds of engagement actual engagement sure.
Every time I try to get you to talk deeper about things, and go deep into it you are turning around and going "nope fuck this"
If I am wrong about you, you know I need to engage to get it cleared up
Pedir: that's what I'm trying to do but you keep shutting it down. Why should anyone get a pass at this stage of the game anyhow? - Andresvmb
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