Newbie 2057: Mars! - End!

[six pomegranate seeds]

4 ) The borrowing of arguments - 121 Pooky is pushing back on Creative’s reasoning that it is scummy to start a wagon (ironic since Creative just said starting a wagon is good so that there is no - no elim on d1 in prior post 59. At this point Kaz swoops in and provides more reasoning for why Pooky is scummy i.e. Pooky has no content 123. At this point Creative basically sheeps what Kaz’s read was, he never uses the words contentless to describe pooky until he echoes kaz here 125 “what I quoted, was like kazyan said content-less posting and warning me of a danger no one else seemed to see.” In game pooky has 3 votes wheme has 2 if Kaz is scum with Creative both of them have been widely TR to this point with the exception of Kaz and Wheme light sussing creative - neither of them appear to be d1 vote candidates so I see no reason for them to align like this and for creative to openly sheep Kaz’s reasoning here.

again i don't see why they can't tho

like a lot of these posts are things like: 'i don't know why partners would do that so kaz is town'
but like i don't know why partners *can't* do these things and i don't find these things to be clearing

Why wouldn't kaz as a partner here just feed creative a line rather than giving him the contentless point in day chat? You're right it's not clearing, but I don't have clearing lines for Wheme either.

[six pomegranate seeds]

We can wrap up day just let me read through one of Kaz's ISOs to get a sense of how he played as town before. I have to do something for a couple hours first though so just give me a little time.

[Kazyan]

If I have to make a single extra post in this game that isn't just a naked Whemestar vote on Day 4, I'm going to be annoyed.

I have no idea why you would take this attitude as town you should be willing to talk to you TRs and try to get them to vote the way you think is correct.

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What? Seriously? I just saw Skitter question me on answers that were right there in my ISO, adjacent to the things she was questioning me about, and then you continue speculating about me as Mafia when I just gave you a game-mechanical reason that it has to be Whemestar. To be blunt, why should I continue talking to my townreads if they're not going to read my posts? Why should I bother filling out the forms in triplicate when I've already filled out the same forms with the same content twice before?

I won't be entertaining any further questions on this. Make a decision or don't.

[six pomegranate seeds]

I get annoyed when people don't read what I write too but I still try to engage with them especially when I think they are town.

I have to go for a couple hours but tbh Kaz my choice here is to just hammer creative or to gambit the game and vote wheme to see if you hammer and I'm deciding which to do right now.

[six pomegranate seeds]

Fwiw I do agree the pace of this game was not enjoyable which is kind of why I'm considering the gambit.

[six pomegranate seeds]

"The most town thing about kaz is 224 kaz commits to TRing SAM and Griff if creative flips scum, as a mafia with possible tracker/FN alive committing that hard to this read he’d need to ML both skitter and whemstar to win with a possible invest alive this is just a suicidal post for a mafia to make. I think kaz is just town."

This is what I thought was clearing for Kaz on first read through specifically TRing Griff's afk slot I think is really townie because you're losing one of the easy ML spots imo. It's less townie that I initially thought because I didn't realize that mafia knew there was no tracker but I still think it's pretty townie post 224.

[Kazyan]

The gambit won't tell you anything tbh. As town, I want to hammer scum (and I'm confident in my logic), and as scum, I would want to hammer town.

[six pomegranate seeds]

I do think that scum Kaz deserves to win the game and I would vote Wheme in final 3 to be clear before I leave in case a hammer happens while I'm gone.

[six pomegranate seeds]

Yeah it wouldn't tell me anything but if wheme is scum it wins town the game and we get to skip d4 because creative is obv scum, obv it loses town the game if I'm wrong lol.

[six pomegranate seeds]

Game has been super slow that's why I'm considering it.

[skitter30]

Why wouldn't kaz as a partner here just feed creative a line rather than giving him the contentless point in day chat? You're right it's not clearing, but I don't have clearing lines for Wheme either.

i mean if they're mirroring each other's arguments isn't that what's basically happening?

[skitter30]

I have to go for a couple hours but tbh Kaz my choice here is to just hammer creative or to gambit the game and vote wheme to see if you hammer and I'm deciding which to do right now.

uhhhh let's just stick with creative please. why gamble the game today when we have caught scum?
and sure we have a few hours, take your time

[skitter30]

The replacement rules for Newbie games mean that the weekend counts as a single day for prod purposes, but this game day would end before prods could go out. For this reason, I'm going to add a day to the deadline, and go ahead and issue a needed prod.

Kazyan has been prodded.

Revised deadline: March 23, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2021-03-22 21:00:00)

@ffery is this still in effect? or the old one since kaz came back?

[WhemeStar]

I’m home from vacation hello

[skitter30]

hello! i'm just waiting for seeds to finish up what he wanted and then i Shall Hammer and hopefully Not Lose The Game

[WhemeStar]

Who do I gotta convince tomorrow to not vote me

[skitter30]

probably seeds if he's alive
otherwise me

(assuming one of me or seeds dies here)

[WhemeStar]

Am I remembering this game wrong by thinking the creative wagon never happens without me

[WhemeStar]

Why do I do that to a newbie partner I don’t get the logic

[skitter30]

which creative wagon?

[WhemeStar]

The one day 2

[skitter30]

Vote Count 2-6

The original book cover illustration by Frank Earle Schoonover

In 1912, Edgar Rice Burroughs (better known for his Tarzan novels) published a serialized story in the All-Story magazine titled "Under the Moons of Mars". It was later published in novel form as "A Princess of Mars". And thus began a series of novels about Barsoom, as the planet was known to its fictional inhabitants. This series is in the genre of science fantasy, specifically planetary romance. The subgenre could be described as sword and sorcery with a few science-y sprinkles here and there. He and his heirs published 11 novels and collections, with the series finale, "Skeleton Men of Jupiter" first published in 1943.

CreativeName

(3): SAMCRO, Kazyan, WhemeStar

six pomegranate seeds

(2): skitter30, CreativeName

Kazyan

(1): Andante

skitter30

(1): six pomegranate seeds

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Revised deadline: March 13, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-03-12 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

SAMCRO has been prodded. If a replacement is needed the deadline will be suspended/modified.
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eh you were the third vote and immediate impetus to him claiming tracker, which looked stage so

[WhemeStar]

Do you know why kaz scumread creative ?

[skitter30]

apparently he was convinced there was exactly one scum in {sam/creative} and he felt fine voting either

[fferyllt]

The replacement rules for Newbie games mean that the weekend counts as a single day for prod purposes, but this game day would end before prods could go out. For this reason, I'm going to add a day to the deadline, and go ahead and issue a needed prod.

Kazyan has been prodded.

Revised deadline: March 23, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2021-03-22 21:00:00)

@ffery is this still in effect? or the old one since kaz came back?

Yes, this one is in effect.