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[Alisae]

I hate pandora and yoshi

[Ydrasse]

take that back rn

[Alisae]

Ydra do you wanna vote Fark yet?

[LegoLucy]

i hate that i was born wrong

[Luca Blight]

1. skitter30 [0]:

2. Farkran [2]:

PookyTheMagicalBear#2435, skitter30#3360

3. Alisae [1]:

Menalque#3508

4. PookyTheMagicalBear [0]:

5. Chara [0]:

6. Luca Blight [0]:

7. NorwegianboyEE [2]:

Ydrasse#3384, Luca Blight#3584

8. Menalque [4]:

Day#2434, Farkran#3473, NorwegianboyEE#3474, Alisae#3480

9. LegoLucy [0]:

10. PenguinPower [0]:

11. Ydrasse [1]:

LegoLucy#3457

12. Day [2]:

PenguinPower#3083, Chara#3627

13. Something_Smart [1]:

Something_Smart#9

Skitter is seeking a compromise, is willing to compromise on Menalque but thinks Farkran is scummy and maybe Lucy

PP votes Norwee
Menalque votes Farkran
Day votes PP
Skitter votes Lucy
Lucy votes PP
PP votes Farkran
*Skitter is active and posting at this point*

elimination

Menalque [3]:

Farkran, NorwegianboyEE, Alisae

Farkran [3]:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Menalque, PenguinPower

PenguinPower [2]:

LegoLucy, Day

NorwegianboyEE [2]:

Ydrasse, Luca Blight

Something_Smart [1]:

Something_Smart

Day [1]:

Chara

LegoLucy [1]:

skitter30

Not Voting [0]:

Luca and Pooky vote PP
Skitter sighs and says she doesn't want to vote PP
Luca votes Norwee and encourages wagon activity
Skitter objects to this because we need a viable EoD wagon (which happens to be PP)

So it begs the question, why did she not at least try to compromise on Farkran here? This is why I feel Skitter didn't want to be on a mislim wagon D1

[Luca Blight]

And the three people on that Farkran wagon are three people she strongly TR

[Luca Blight]

Like the only thing that really swung it away from Farkran was Pooky voting PP, and Skitter could easily having convinced Pooky to go back on the Farkran wagon?

The whole thing feels weird to me

[Alisae]

I think Skitter is town if Fark is scum

[Luca Blight]

And a while after she votes Lucy, Skitter has this solve in mind:

{chara, fark, lucy} rn for me ig

So, you're looking for a compromise and are frustrated at the lack of unity, and two of your townreads (Menalque and PP) are wagons competing with one of your SR's (Farkran) so why not compromise on Farkran? And you TR everyone on the Farkran wagon

Literally no-one else wanted a Lucy lim and Skitter is wise enough to know that was never happening. Farkran could have happened if she actually tried to push it.

[Luca Blight]

Within six posts:

Pooky can you sum up/quote the main reasons you SR Farkran

VOTE: penguin

VOTE: pp

I think e-1 or maybe e-2

Sigh

I show I'm open to considering Farkran, but for some reason Pooky decides to simply vote PP. Farkran then hops on and Skitter, based on her previous comments as well as her stance today, must be pretty convinced this is scum hopping on the wagon. She sighs, and later says the PP wagon should be maintained, but why not rally against Farkran? Pooky would surely follow Skitter onto that wagon, and I'd be open to it as well.

[Luca Blight]

Skitter was, on the surface, against the PP wagon, but I don't feel as though this is reflected by her actions at all.

Of course as scum she would be secretly hoping the PP elim goes through, because it makes you look good when you oppose a lim and it flips green, whereas it looks bad if you push a lim and it flips red, and you also lose your credibility. It also means Skitter doesn't need to commit to TR'ing the PP slot as she probably would have done from D2, and it makes Farkran look really bad, which she can push D2.

VOTE: Skitter

I still need to review Farkran some more but I prefer this right now

[Luca Blight]

Skitter was, on the surface, against the PP wagon, but I don't feel as though this is reflected by her actions at all.

Of course as scum she would be secretly hoping the PP elim goes through, because it makes you look good when you oppose a lim and it flips green, whereas it looks bad if you push a lim and it flips

green

, and you also lose your credibility. It also means Skitter doesn't need to commit to TR'ing the PP slot as she probably would have done from D2, and it makes Farkran look really bad, which she can push D2.

VOTE: Skitter

I still need to review Farkran some more but I prefer this right now

EBWOP

[Alisae]

Skitter as scum would probably want to participate in the PP wagon to try to get on my good side when I'm just yelling about compromising

[Alisae]

I also just think Fark is more likely to be scum than skitter

[Something_Smart]

How would that get on your good side? Didn't you just get done saying that there were probably a lot of scum on the wagon?

[Alisae]

because it appeases me and the timing makes the vote easily justified.
There's no way for skitter to know what conclusions I will reach from the vote count, or if I try to draw any conclusions at all.

[Luca Blight]

From what I've seen of scum!Skitter she likes to be on the wagons that make her look good later in the game, even if that means bussing her partner early D1. I think as scum she'd like to stay off a mislim wagon d1, and it maintains her credibility

Also Skitter was one of the biggest proponents of the 'we need to compromise' movement, which makes her actions seem disingenuous

[Alisae]

I think this has value to it if Fark is town

[Alisae]

I just know that Fark wants to keep me in the POE where as Skitter wants to townread me and if Skitter was scum and Fark was town, Skitter will want to put me in the PoE after Fark flips town or somethin

[Luca Blight]

Scum!Skitter could easily put you in the PoE again after Farkran town!flip

Flips change perspectives

[Alisae]

Yep, so I don't mind being wrong on Fark and seeing what happens.
Fark flipping town is also pretty helpful for reading the game.

[Luca Blight]

I agree that there's value limming in {Farkran, Skitter} today. We need a lim that's not only likely to flip scum, but also help solve the game regardless of the flip

I'll review Farkran again now

[Something_Smart]

because it appeases me and the timing makes the vote easily justified.
There's no way for skitter to know what conclusions I will reach from the vote count, or if I try to draw any conclusions at all.

I feel like she would expect that to look bad to most people...

[Luca Blight]

SS, why did you vote Farkran?

[Luca Blight]

Menalque’s obvtown based on recent posts alone

A few posts later...

I'm almost at the point where i'm willing to compromise on mena (sorry)

So

weird

Maybe Skitter is worried that Menalque might become unlimmable so wants to cash in on that now? I don't see why she says that as Town just after I start to hard-TR Menalque