Open 807 | Town Win

[Rockhopper]

VC 1.17

Not voting (2):

Something_Smart, implosion

Not_Mafia (1):

Minimegabyte

Dunnstral (1):

Salsabil Faria

Battle Mage (1):

Artemiana

Artemiana (7) (HAMMER)

:

Battle Mage, Not_Mafia, PenguinPower, PookyTheMagicalBear, Scipio1, Almost50, Save The Dragons

Something_Smart (1):

Dunnstral

With 7 votes, Artemiana has been eliminated. They were a

Spoiler:

Mafia Goon

[/spoiler]

Night 1 ends in (expired on 2021-03-20 00:21:14)

[Rockhopper]

Not_Mafia was killed Night 1. They were a

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

PenguinPower was found dead Day 2. They were a

Spoiler:

Town Weak Hider

Day 2 begins.

[Rockhopper]

VC 2.0

Not voting (10):

Minimegabyte, Battle_Mage, Scipio1, Something_Smart, Dunnstral, Salsabil Faria, Save The Dragons, implosion, PookytheMagicalBear, Almost50

Day 2 begins.
(expired on 2021-04-05 02:51:02) until deadline

[implosion]

I don't really see anything that looks like a crumb in Penguin's recent posting but I didn't look all that far back. It's entirely possible he'd hide behind N_M tbh.

[Dunnstral]

Why did Penguin die on day 2 instead of night 1?

[implosion]

I guess if the traitor wasn't recruited, then they're almost certainly offwagon, yeah? No reason to bus as a traitor with a 2-person scumteam.

That said I guess both of the people I somewhat suspected yesterday are offwagon so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

There's probably jack shit useful associatives from Artemiana as well. Maybe like Pooky-town but I wasn't especially thinking Pooky was scum.

[implosion]

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

I think this hits scum decently often.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

[Something_Smart]

It's unlikely that any of the late votes were bussing, with the exception of STD.

I don't think it's out of the question for BM to start that wagon as scum, since he wouldn't have expected Artemiana to just roll over and die. But I'll have to go back and look at the circumstances under which the vote was made.

[Dunnstral]

Salsabil Faria can easily be scum

I think we should take care of them and MiniMegabyte, I don't have a preference between the two

[Almost50]

I don't really see anything that looks like a crumb in Penguin's recent posting but I didn't look all that far back. It's entirely possible he'd hide behind N_M tbh.

VOTE: implosion

Yeah, like he would do that without bringing him up even once! *Nod*

PP hid behind implo or STD, and the former is much much more likely than the latter.

[Almost50]

Why did Penguin die on day 2 instead of night 1?

EXACTLY! This is PROOF he didn't die hiding behind N_M

[Almost50]

I guess if the traitor wasn't recruited, then they're almost certainly offwagon, yeah? No reason to bus as a traitor with a 2-person scumteam.

I fully agree. Mow vote this implosion guy with me as he is also crumbing traitor now

Not voting (2):

Something_Smart, implosion

[Almost50]

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

I think this hits scum decently often.

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

And Dunn is responding. My solve is Dunn is the other Mafioso (main) and implo is the Traitor. Piece if cake.

[Something_Smart]

EXACTLY! This is PROOF he didn't die hiding behind N_M

Uh... Show your work?

[Something_Smart]

PP hid behind implo or STD, and the former is much much more likely than the latter.

Show your work here too.

[Almost50]

Salsabil Faria can easily be scum

I think we should take care of them and MiniMegabyte, I don't have a preference between the two

I won't budge off implosion.

[Something_Smart]

@mod why does N_M's death say N1 and PP's say D2?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

I think this hits scum decently often.

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

And Dunn is responding. My solve is Dunn is the other Mafioso (main) and implo is the Traitor. Piece if cake.

There is little reason for main faction mafia to respond to a traitor signal

[Dunnstral]

(I also don't understand how me voting for MiniMegabyte is related to your argument that Implosion is signaling traitor)

[Something_Smart]

I don't understand any of it.

[Almost50]

EXACTLY! This is PROOF he didn't die hiding behind N_M

Uh... Show your work?

What do you mean? N_M died at night, PP died at the start of the day. The two did not die "simultaneously". I thought YOU should explain that as a member of the NRG.

PP hid behind implo or STD, and the former is much much more likely than the latter.

Show your work here too.

ISO PP. He voted implo in RVS, was focused on him all day, and revoted him to reassert his crumb. He voted STD afterwards for a short period (which I don't think is the true crumb, but can't rule it out) and then he switched to Artimiana.

You don't think PP would go into the night without crumbing his target, would you? Now unless you think "Pooky is town" was the actual crumb (in which case shame on PP) or the "Lying clodpole" was a reference to him targeting N_M, I can't seem to find anything more telling than PP SRing implo and spending the whole day arguing he was Scum.

ALSO, Pooky -if Town- is/was a prime NK target himself, so PP would not have hid behind him regardless. N_M was early on the wagon so is unlikely to be suspected by PP too, and the way PP plays Weak Hider is NOT to try and survive, but rather as a one-shot Cop.

This all leads me to think he hid behind implo. Plain and simple.

[implosion]

I actually can't really deny that looks like a traitor signal lol. It isn't but alas. I'd like to think I'd be more nuanced about it? I have a completed game from the long ago as a traitor and I don't think I ever signaled.

I was assuming the "day two" thing was just a mistake and I don't understand why anyone thinks it isn't?

[Almost50]

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

I think this hits scum decently often.

VOTE: MiniMegabyte

And Dunn is responding. My solve is Dunn is the other Mafioso (main) and implo is the Traitor. Piece if cake.

There is little reason for main faction mafia to respond to a traitor signal

Well, I'm not voting you for now, am I?

[Dunnstral]

What do you mean? N_M died at night, PP died at the start of the day. The two did not die "simultaneously". I thought YOU should explain that as a member of the NRG.

So I took a look at it; this is an open setup, there's no way for penguinpower to have died on day 2

I think the death message is just unclear and they both died on night 1

I'm pretty sure both weak and hider deaths are supposed to be on the same night