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[Chara]

Ali if you have talked more about why Luca becomes more likely scum on a Norwee townflip i'd appreciate being pointed to it, but i townread both of them.

and logically i can see the difference in Ali's pov between Fark and skitter but given Ali's townread on skitter i don't like how easily e agrees that Luca's argument about skitter can have merit only on a Farkran townflip.

[Something_Smart]

And what about the rest of what I wrote in that post?

Do you disagree?

I don't disagree. If I were to read skitter off of my own faculties she'd be somewhere near nullscum, I think?

[Something_Smart]

The line I heard earlier was that Menalque always Townbins Skitter until later in the game regardless?

This is the post I was going off of. Maybe I'm reading it as more confident than it is.

yah the idea that scum!skitt kills pooky N1 is kinda ridiculous imo

[Luca Blight]

Trust your own faculties and let's work this out today, then. Another mislim allows scum too much control and it could be game over already.

I'm out of time so I'll continue this later

[Chara]

meaning i understand why Ali would prefer to flip Farkran here even if e thinks Luca's point has some potential, but it feels like e is lining up a path to more miselims.
i also don't really buy that scum Ali has more posts, Alisae is aware of e's own meta and i think if the game is going eir way e doesn't need to wrestle control of the game through force, and would have a better time being more subtle about it.

pedit: goodnight. me too.

[Something_Smart]

I mean, in my experience I've had a lot of trouble reading skitter early in the game. In TENET in particular I was scumreading her until she started hitting her stride.

[Alisae]

meaning i understand why Ali would prefer to flip Farkran here even if e thinks Luca's point has some potential, but it feels like e is lining up a path to more miselims.

okay then you can vote me if Farkran flips town

[Alisae]

If by your logic I'm scum and Fark is town, then Fark flipping town should prove that, therefore you have nothing to lose if you vote fark.
If he flips town, you get more ammo against me
if he flips scum, then you're wrong, I'm right, and we live happy

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee can be scum with Skitter
Norwee can be scum with Fark
Norwee can be scum with day

And yet i’m town and not scum with anyone at all. Shit’s wild.

[Alisae]

prove it

[Farkran]

I'm caught up, wanted to say something but basically not much has changed since my last posts

Luca summarized all the points i had to say about skitter, probably better than how i could've worded them

My solve rn is skitter+alisae, third one could still be ydrasse or chara but that push from ss is also kinda poor? Despite not wanting to, i feel like i definitely got passionate in this game and by now everyone knows it's not town-indicative for me, so i wonder why -even if it isn't true- i get to be pushed for *not* being passionate?

I mean of course i try to be reasonable. I do my best to be reasonable. And i often fail at that. How is it ai?

[Farkran]

Yep, so I don't mind being wrong on Fark and seeing what happens.
Fark flipping town is also pretty helpful for reading the game.

I do have one thing to say about alisae though

The same reasoning applied to skitter could be applied to er as well, considering that this is er current stance and i believe there is no reason to change/strengthen it based on nka

I think i would have been a valuable info lim yesterday as well given that i has 1v1s with pooky and skitter (and to some extent menalque) yet ali never considered voting me. Now i'm er highest scumread but i'm also a high value info lim to er

What do you get from my town flip ali? Who is scum if i am town?

[Farkran]

Norwee/Luca/Day still to the pinnacle of towniness to me

Scum!norwee would have trashed me a million times by now regardless

Day and Luca are pretty much the only two slots that are actually trying to solve rather than pushing onesided lims, if they're scum i'm ok eating the loss (hint: they are town)

Menalque could still be scum, but i feel more strongly about skitter rn. Actually i might have been wrong in disaligning them because of bussing mechanics - skitter is way more unpredictable than i expected her to be, if that midday wk was a farce it wouldn't be outside of the plausible realm to have a mena/skit team

I mean i think mena would "pocket" skitter as either alignment and in any team so it's not ai nor associative for him - skitter maybe just doesn't want to bus there given how many available wagons there were by midphase d1? I mean i'm still trying to understand why she didn't defend pp with the same passion she used for menalque, there were still more than 24 hours left which i believe is enough time for town!skitter's standards

She also didn't push for her scumreads anywhere as fiercely in both circumstances - all she did is basically push Lucy who was townread by 10 players out of 13 iirc

[Farkran]

Chara would you vote alisae with us if you townread skitter atm?

Also why do you townread skitter again? I mean from on your 4716 you seem to be metareading her as town based on a lack of "elegance" but wouldn't you agree that this behavior is scummy in a meta vacuum?

[innocentvillager]

Vote count 2.2

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2021-03-30 16:20:40).

elimination

1. skitter30 [1]:

Luca Blight#4685

2. Farkran [4]:

Menalque#4368, skitter30#4479, Something_Smart#4630, LegoLucy#4669

3. Alisae [3]:

Day#4615, Farkran#4620, NorwegianboyEE#4655

5. Chara [0]:

6. Luca Blight [0]:

7. NorwegianboyEE [0]:

8. Menalque [0]:

9. LegoLucy [0]:

11. Ydrasse [0]:

12. Day [0]:

13. Something_Smart [0]:

no elimination [0]:

Not Voting [3]:

Chara, Ydrasse, Alisae#4589

mod notes

Spoiler: traditional vc

elimination

Farkran [4]:

Menalque, skitter30, Something_Smart, LegoLucy

Alisae [3]:

Day, Farkran, NorwegianboyEE

skitter30 [1]:

Luca Blight

Not Voting [3]:

Chara, Ydrasse, Alisae

Spoiler: vote log

Day 2 vote log

Post 4169: Menalque votes Farkran
Post 4248: Menalque votes NorwegianboyEE
Post 4304: Luca Blight votes NorwegianboyEE
Post 4305: NorwegianboyEE votes skitter30
Post 4317: Luca Blight votes skitter30
Post 4333: Luca Blight votes NorwegianboyEE
Post 4346: skitter30 votes Farkran
Post 4362: Farkran votes skitter30

Post 4368: Menalque votes Farkran

Post 4370: skitter30 votes Farkran
Post 4469: skitter30 votes LegoLucy

Post 4479: skitter30 votes Farkran

Post 4568: Day votes LegoLucy
Post 4574: Day votes Alisae
Post 4583: Day votes LegoLucy
Post 4588: Alisae votes LegoLucy

Post 4589: Alisae votes unvote

Post 4602: Day votes Chara

Post 4615: Day votes Alisae

Post 4620: Farkran votes Alisae

Post 4630: Something_Smart votes Farkran

Post 4655: NorwegianboyEE votes Alisae

Post 4661: LegoLucy votes Alisae

Post 4669: LegoLucy votes Farkran

Post 4685: Luca Blight votes skitter30

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[Luca Blight]

I’m voting Skitter @Mod

-sorry fixed

[Luca Blight]

I’m getting Town pings from Farkran’s recent posts. I feel uncomfortable with how his lim is being pushed tbh

If it came down to it I’d vote Ali but I have more confidence in my Skitter read

[Luca Blight]

I don’t know what to make of Lucy anymore. Her current wishy-washy stance makes me feel uneasy given her vote seems of particular importance in this stand-off

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve just got a job and i’m really happy about it. I’ve been mostly living like a bum these recent months. Spending my time just playing mafia until 2 AM. But now i might get some proper sleeping rhytm and less free time overall. So my activity levels will likely take a toll as an result. Just FYI. I’ll still keep up and play this game obviously.

[Menalque]

Just finished a scumgame if anyone’s interested https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=575

[Luca Blight]

Congrats on the new job

I was just about to make a post saying I think the gamestate (as I understand it) implies you’re Town

Luca, Day, Chara, Farkran, Norwee, Menalque Town. Maybe Lucy? But not so confident rn

Scum in Skitter, SS, Ydrasse, Lucy, Ali

[Menalque]

Luca could u do me a solid and stop voting town ty

[Menalque]

God that PP lim was so trash lol

[Luca Blight]

Why is Skitter Town?

Please don’t give me the ‘she wouldn’t have killed Pooky’ BS

[Menalque]

The line I heard earlier was that Menalque always Townbins Skitter until later in the game regardless?

This is the post I was going off of. Maybe I'm reading it as more confident than it is.

yah the idea that scum!skitt kills pooky N1 is kinda ridiculous imo

I think that even given the PR claim this is a weird kill for skitt to make

Like maaaaybe if her team really wanted it? But like pooky was probably not ever gonna vote skitter this game, and was a loud voice in favour of that

Look at how much easier the attempts to wagon her have been today vs yesterday