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[skitter30]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=80945 - luca you were in this one. We knew who the md was off of a very obvious crumb and killed someone else entirely (who happened to flip pr but we didnt know that at the time) - you can see how i weigh these things

I'll pull some more later and respond to the other thinfs then too, gotta go back to work

[skitter30]

@skitt who do u think you’d have killed

Luca or day

y

Luca for beinf highly townread and having a lot of influence
Day for the pr claim

Nobody else is high-influence enuf

[Menalque]

How are you reading Lucy and S_S, Luca?

[skitter30]

It’s not a fact

If you kill me do you really think that would reflect well on you? Come on

Not bad enuf that i coulsnt talk my way out of it, i'm sure. Or i would have killed day, if i were going for pr's it would have been day over pooky 3000% of the time

Day’s Pr kind of sucks though

Whereas Pooky could have been anything, and was more Tr than Pooky. Day could have been a future mislim depending on Pooky’s role, but Pooky wasn’t limmable

Don’t pretend that you’re this surface level in you’re thinking as scum

But pooky woupdnt have pushed me and would have pushed the people i wanted him to push, which is literally more important

Just because you view it differently than me doesnt mean this isnt what *i* would have done or how *i* would have approached it

The fact that pooky isnt limmable isnt relevant if he'a pocketed that hard - i would never be trying to lim him anyways so what do i care if he's limmable or not - like he'd be alive to townread me and to push people i want to push, not to lim him

Like yeah he's a pr, that's not the be all end all for killing someone and there are other factors to take into consideration

[Menalque]

I think skitt is v town

[Luca Blight]

I talked about Lucy on the other page. I’m not sure about her right now and don’t like her current stance. Overall maybe slightly leaning Town but not confident

I don’t like SS’s vote and think he could easily be scum

[Menalque]

Who do u think is town

[skitter30]

A: Very active and solvey.
B: Very town and townread.
C: Had a power role that might clear their primary scumread or cause trouble for any mafia players.
D: Would become a big threat to town assuming they started to townread Farkran and they are both town power solving the game from D2.

Once again that's all fine abd good but:
A and b - yes and he was pushing the people that i wanted to push so this is a + for keeping him alive, not a -
C - like yeah ig but then i just move off of fark and start pushing someone else, and bus if necessary. he just as easily might not depending on what sort kf pr he had
D - unless he literally got a clear on fark overnight there's no reason to think his read might change on him suddenly, in fact i would bet that it would not

[Menalque]

Luca, Day, Chara, Farkran, Norwee, Menalque Town.

Oh right

[Menalque]

Okay I think perhaps we’re at an impasse, Luca

[skitter30]

Erm, yes - Him being alive and me being dead would have made him reassess big time, unless he’s a really low level player (which clearly he isn’t)

And for all you knew he could have been an investigative

Luca i know how he plays and i'm p sure he would not have

K really bouncing, bye. Luca i'll pull more examplea for yoy

[Menalque]

Luca i know how he plays and i'm p sure he would not have

I’m not sure I know how he plays re: his alignment, but big +1 on this

[Luca Blight]

Menalque are you willing to lim Ali?

I might be willing to compromise there. I really don’t think Farkran is scum here

[Farkran]

@skitt who do u think you’d have killed

Luca or day

I don't believe this for the record

Day has been close to being a viable lim even post-claim, pp was limmed calling Day scum *and* was on pp wagon

I also agree with who said that Day's power kinda sucks until there's exactly 1 scum left who could be ascetic or ninja or strongman or something like that, i.e. yeah Day barely count as a power role, he's more akin to named town whereas pooky could be anything from protective to investigative

Moreover, from scum!skitter pov, town!Day is a perfectly viable mislim and pooky dying also removes resistance against wagoning Day - this doesn't *reinforce* the fact, but it is compatible with how scum!skitter would plan future developments

I don't believe that skitter kills Day over pooky as scum

[Luca Blight]

I don’t believe it either but I’m tired of talking about it tbh

[Luca Blight]

Only problem is if we lim Ali and e flips Town then we’re back here again

[NorwegianboyEE]

Or i would have killed day, if i were going for pr's it would have been day over pooky 3000% of the time

You didn't even know Pooky's role so why would you be so sure of that?

[Luca Blight]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=80945 - luca you were in this one. We knew who the md was off of a very obvious crumb and killed someone else entirely (who happened to flip pr but we didnt know that at the time) - you can see how i weigh these things

I'll pull some more later and respond to the other thinfs then too, gotta go back to work

Btw motion detector is a pretty crappy role, right?

Pooky hinted at a role with massive swing potential. Scum would be worried about it more than a disloyal RB or a motion detector

[skitter30]

I'm kinda tired talking abt it too.

This is how i view fhe game, you are free to believe me or not, but this is not the kill i would have made last night, and i will be stubborn on this because i know what i would have done

[skitter30]

I don't believe this for the record

I mean of course you wouldnt. Luca be wary of fark buddying you btw

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is how i view fhe game, you are free to believe me or not, but this is not the kill i would have made last night, and i will be stubborn on this because i know what i would have done

You can be stubborn about it, i just think it's a very weak point and i'm not sure why that's something you'd be clinging on too.

[Farkran]

I'm still fine voting skitter, i can see them being in a team anyways

Both have been soft defending each other while at the same time skitter disliked alisae stances multiple times, could go find the posts if needed but i clearly recall skitt saying "alisae's takes sucks but e's still town" multiple times yet never committed to push her.

Thinking about it i can see scum!skit/town!ali more than viceversa IF they are tvs. I doubt t/t is an option in this scenario

Also i hate how menalque gets away while betting the entire game on skitter being town ignoring all the most obvious facts and having literally zero solve attempts throughout the whole game but ok, i am over arguing about it, i'm just reminding everyone that his posts are pretty much entirely manipulative bullshit until he stops doing that or becomes viable as a lim

SS might be valid but i had him as town before this push and i'd like to hear his pov more detailed

Pedit how am i buddying luca lol, i townread luca and i have done literally nothing to pocket him, i think i have played with luca once maybe? And he was scum repping out by n1

[Luca Blight]

From an objective standpoint, isn’t it *safer* and more logical to assume scum!Skitter (along with her team who also have a say) *might* have killed Pooky in this situation?

Like I’m not even arguing the kill incriminates her, I’m just saying it certainly doesn’t clear her as it was objectively the obvious kill

If there’s other compelling reasons for Town!skit then I’m open to hearing them, but I’m never going to buy this line of reasoning

And I’m suspicious of the number of players who have so willingly accepted and peddled this line. I believe Menalque is genuine in what he’s saying, but I’m not so sure from players like Lucy and SS

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: alisae

for now

[Luca Blight]

Just be aware that both Farkran and Ali are now E2, as I know votes can fly in between VC’s