Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[notscience]

hi i'm on p26 and just was curious why cakez is still alive

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

vote him dude

[Battle Mage]

hi i'm on p26 and just was curious why cakez is still alive

I thought you were banned heh

I'm pretty easy between wagons. Slightly happier on Cakez, but I'd probably do notscience too.

[SirCakez]

hi i'm on p26 and just was curious why cakez is still alive

yikes

[Prism]

hi i'm on p26 and just was curious why cakez is still alive

Can you be more specific as to why he shouldn't be?

[notscience]

Words are starting to blur. my pbpa faded off but I can at least walk through my reads thus far, but i think ive got a fairly decent standing.

Spoiler: catchup

111 from math is meh i dont think malas done anything outside of scum range as of this post

135 Isn’t really not fakeable but is hitting tonal markers/just feels like he’s genuinely not stressed this game.

152 yeah i agree. I think this bodes well for dunn here

As of page 8 Tammy is town and spiffy is town. I was paranoid of tammy in popcorn but i just dont really feel it this game. I think part of it is her reaction to all the confusion about how the mechanic works, she feels like town trying to understand the setup and then figure out whos trying to abuse hte confusion. Spiffy as I’ve said just has this undercurrent of not giving a fuck that most likely means town.

195 LOL

197 The part about elim me over doing the plan feels forced. Like this whole explanation is “what do we actually learn” like its not just a game about interpreting peoples reactions

237 Interesting take about something thats not even a meltdown given the xeno meltdown lol

266 Im pretty sure ffery knows whats expected of her gameplay here so dont know why this post is necessary

324 uhhhh thats not really conveyed over your cakez iso

328 I really like this bell paranoia wrt prism and while i dont think thats what was going on i do think this was a genuine paranoid flicker

As of page 15 I’m adding bell to the townreads and cakez has not impressed me thus far. I haven’t loved Math’s posting but I’m not sure it’s scum or awkward town

518 Lines up how I feel with it.

565 I’m not used to Titus/Math dynamic but yeah, she does feel weird.

579 feels like an overexaggeration but a town one

592 im townreading pooky but i dont have a reason

602 Yeah i really dont get why dunn was wagoned. I’ve hit on it a few times in recent games, his activity is based on his interest level. It’s understandable if hes not interested in that reward side of the game, since he got to the kill people part he’s been fine. Looking at the vc a few posts up I’d be willing to say 2 on- I dont think its spiffy. One is prob cakez. Probably not math.

604 ???????? Bell’s been fine.

620 something something disturbing the waters so they cant be read something. I refuse to believe there’s people actually scumreading Bell lol

631 Interesting take, why are you voting dunn then? You said you didnt like the reads (which were perfectly fine) then said he must have drawn scum and now you’re sitting reasonless on his wagon?

667 bell town is a safe as fuck read and i wish i had more to go off of here

755 Yeah Im kinda wondering how mastina has skated through this far without doing anything yet. I feel like someone should be talking about her by now.

812 Don’t like the list, I disagree with cakez, bork has been okay but not great, spiffeh seems fairly obviously town. Greyice townread is kinda weak given his activity level and my first instinct is TMI/defending the easy limnip

813 yeah i really dont get how people are scumreading the mouse

848 I agree with both of these.

914 Mastina scumread on cakez and prism off their votes is reasonless and meh.

915 bell stop inverting your readslist I was confused why sangres and the mouse was at the bottom >:(

924 I know I’m reading this knowing mastina flips red but I’m wondering if this means something. It could just be a red herring, I’m trying to decide if I think mastina is that cheeky. It’s basically going to determine if I think there’s 2 scum below or above null- with sheer volume I think its more likely to be in the town side? But Prism is town and math while abrasive isnt seeming like scum, which makes it fairly obv who the scum in the bottom side is

1012 Yeah I see why everyone’s scumreading bork now. He just feels like a non-entity. Like I get he’s making an argument but wheres the fire? Where’s the passion? It feels very passive and I think town-bork digs in harder here. Especially considering this is an interaction with flipped scum.

1082 Was my same thought. Pooky town?

1116 and those that lead up isnt an awful interaction from math? Like I can see math trying to bridge a gap in his own way.

1140 As of this point in mastina’s catchup she’s talked to Sangres, LLD, Grey (my slot) and bork. I think it’s unlikely a scum in catchup ignores a buddy and given that I know 3 of those are town, it doesn’t bode well for bork. Particularly because it’s all surface level shit about flavorhunting.

1325 I’ve agreed with Mala on a lot of her posts but I agree with this one a lot

1337 This is a weird towel throw in from Titus.

Town-
Bell-

adorable bell is town bell

other people have said it looks like tenet bell and I agreed, and just overall I am getting a lot of solvey vibes and not a lot of hide in the background vibes
spiffy- the basic tldr is I get this undercurrent of excitement from his posts that seems a step up from what ive seen in those same 3 scumgames I witnessed that bell did. I feel like hes genuinely trying to solve and it doesnt feel like hes just here to shitpost
tammy- shes hitting all her tonal markers when shes around and blah blah meta meta tammys town
prism- still from recent posting not really anything to do with the catchup but their posts werent bad in the catchup

Lean town
pooky- I liked 1082 and agreed with it. This is one of the reads I can't really come up with explanation on why I feel the way I do. So its here
Math- I've come around on math. I wasn't a fan at first but I have a nose for sussing out the... unique... playstyled townies. I think their play is too erratic for a scum agenda and that I also think Titus has fairly decent scum equity, and makes sense in a whiteknighting scenario.
Dunn- should probably be a tier up. maybe it's paranoia from popcorn. I really hated the early wagon on dunn and I had several posts from Dunn I could very easily see from TownDunn, such as the readslist in 152. His reaction to everyone asking why he wasnt working with sangres after them working together got exploited was good as well.

null-
BM- /shrug I struggle to remember what hes done

Lean scum-
bork- his vote on me doesn't help. But his ISO is very uninspired, along with some rough interactions with mastina (and as I mentioned in my catchup, mastina's initial catchup flurry had responses to myself and two flipped townies. I find it very hard to believe there wasn't a scum in that pool). I know he's had some issues with real life problems and it could be part of his lower activity, but I think his ISO reads more like scum burnout than town who can't get immersed. Maybe it steps up from where I've read but my lack of being impressed here combined with my townreads on the rest of the field...
Titus- I understand she's having some IRL issues which could be clouding things. I don't like her interactions with Math. I understand I don't know all the intricacies, but here I am referencing the policy thing several others have said. I wouldn't hesitate to call it TMI and feel like Titus's ISO comes across trying to save math and then be able to use math as a beard. I also feel like titus (and cakez!) have had a fair amount of shade thrown their way for such a light wagon to hit, and then that weird towel throw in, just seems off? One reservation I am having is reconciling three scum being competing wagons at the end of the day. If cakez flips goon or something weak I'd up titus's scum equity as both of them were on cakez over mastina, a flipped goon.

Scum-
Cakez- (Note: The following is a paid advertisement from PookyTheMagicalBear. These are professional actors.)

1) The Dunn votepark was super bad. He didn't like Dunn's post that I actually picked out as a fairly town post.
2) 1854 Continuation of the dunn tunnel thats bad, but I feel like this is trying to get attention away from the leading wagons. Which he'd want to do, if both were scum.
3) I really hate the EOD play trying to prevent himself or mastina from going down by shoving dunn.
4) Mastina's early readslists, when referencing the bottom side, had Dunn, Cakez, Prism, Mathblade. You all know the drill, there's probably scum in the pool, yada yada. I'm townreading the other three so purely by PoE examination of mastina's pool. That and it wasn't really explained well why mastina was scumreading cakez. There's TONS about how prism is scum bc of their flavorclaim (while not under duress) but the vote is parked on cakez for gut and unexplained meta.
5) 637 Cakez's iso as of this post is literally described by bell in the next post and is pretty accurate.

VOTE: Cakez

[notscience]

Sorry for the delay I read to 65 and then I started pettering out but I powered through and finished D1

Y'all know the drill I'm gonna let the thread breathe let me know if you have questions for me.

Blood for the blood gods and all that.

[MathBlade]

Hey notscience I am not asking to be a dick but I am asking to see how through your read is:

What do you think Cakez’s claim was and Titus’s claim was if any?

[Dunnstral]

So just to be clear Bork you’re voting me because I’d be doing more if I’d read the game to catch up?

Because I really haven’t read that much. I read page one and posts since my replace in.

But anyways, excuses. I’m going to try to read at least day one tomorrow (something something proven track record of not being super available sundays something)

I kinda like Dunn’s read shift on me even if I don’t agree with borks reasoning for the read.

a not science wagon is literally push a lurker to avoid the PoE again.

I’ve been here for 24 hours and asleep or working for 22 of them

:(

OK, if you're this level of busy then I don't think the points brought up in 3768 mean anything

@bork I meant you can play bad or you can play scummy, but not both at the same time. This is a trap that Sircakez has fallen into again

VOTE: SirCakez

[Prism]

I'm voting in Cakez/Titus/Dunn today. Am going to read Cakez when I get home but generally I'm okay with it.

[MathBlade]

I'm voting in Cakez/Titus/Dunn today. Am going to read Cakez when I get home but generally I'm okay with it.

Yay!

Woo hoo!

Thank you!

*does a little jig*

[Prism]

Dunn's s Day 1 was steaming hot trash from reading last night btw but the low content gives me little optimism and I'm fine going with someone else/on a heavily contested slot

[notscience]

(I double checked his d1 action after the claim he never acted)

I think it’s a believable claim I could see in the game as either alignment but think the quiet target is meh. Yeah they were a nonentity all of day one but like... why? It’s a slot getting replaced if scum have the ability to dole them out why would they put him on quiet? Iirc he didn’t say anything about not having an artifact either.

I basically just think it’s a really low info target claim and done on purpose.

As for Titus’s I kinda hit on it but I hate that she threw in the towel like that. I know she’s going through it so I’m taking it with a grain of salt but I have an immense amount of respect for Titus and I just... struggle to reconcile town her throwing her hands up this easy.

Ninja-
I disagree I had no problems with Dunn’s day one. It isn’t as active as he’s been in other recent games, yes, but there’s a plethora of explanations for it. He’s definitely my last choice of your pool.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if Cake flips red it spews Dunn as green imo given Cake's hard pref for Dunn flip over Mastina for most of D1

[MathBlade]

Dunn's s Day 1 was steaming hot trash from reading last night btw but the low content gives me little optimism and I'm fine going with someone else/on a heavily contested slot

It’s a PoE. Whether you’re set on Cakez,Cakez+Bork,Titus + the mod, idgaf long as you’re there that there’s at least a scum in those three it’s all worth it.

Because then if Cakez flips red and then Dunn is town it says a lot about you and maybe townLock is wrong.
If Cakez is red and Dunn is red >> You’re in the same dilemma I was D1.
If Cakez is town and Dunn is red >> boy howdy can Prism be any more lock town
If Cakez is town and Dunn is town >> Elim Titus with the fire of 1000 suns

(Those are in order of probability I think)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Cake flips red and the next elim down the line is Borky

[MathBlade]

(I double checked his d1 action after the claim he never acted)

I think it’s a believable claim I could see in the game as either alignment but think the quiet target is meh. Yeah they were a nonentity all of day one but like... why? It’s a slot getting replaced if scum have the ability to dole them out why would they put him on quiet? Iirc he didn’t say anything about not having an artifact either.

I basically just think it’s a really low info target claim and done on purpose.

As for Titus’s I kinda hit on it but I hate that she threw in the towel like that. I know she’s going through it so I’m taking it with a grain of salt but I have an immense amount of respect for Titus and I just... struggle to reconcile town her throwing her hands up this easy.

Ninja-
I disagree I had no problems with Dunn’s day one. It isn’t as active as he’s been in other recent games, yes, but there’s a plethora of explanations for it. He’s definitely my last choice of your pool.

You can be town for now.

Cakez Bork Titus? *spitballing*

Order of strength.

[MathBlade]

Cake flips red and the next elim down the line is Borky

Bahhhh yess sir yes sir three baaaaahhh full.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if Cakez/Bork flip red I think Titus-scum just concedes.

[Prism]

To be blunt the UTRs on me post Day 1 were stupid to begin with, I got why Pooky thought I was town but the whole wall he gave was 100% wrong lol

If you were to give the me of 3 months ago the gamethread to D2 and asked me to guess my own alignment I would have said red 100%

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you don't even know why I'm townreading you bro

[Prism]

You have a full wall about it lol

[MathBlade]

If Cakez is red Titus is scum or their puppet with how hard she pushed “look on the Mastina wagon”. I kinda wanna say town because the last few games she’s been in she’s kinda been terrible

[notscience]

I think I agree with the bear. Go Cakez>Bork>Titus and ride off into the sunset.

Ninja-
Yeah.

@pooky well see. I’m done assuming people are going to concede bc frankly i fee like I was entitled about it in the past

Ninja-
Yeah at the risk of sounding entrenched im fairly confident in my readslist without reading much of d2 and pre replace in d3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You have a full wall about it lol

minor details >.>