Newbie 2059 - Scummer's Baking Championship (Baked Over)

[GrandpaMo]

for andante, a few things:
- they feel kinda weird as compared to newbie 2057, which i just played with them. this isn't inherently scummy but is of note
- i dislike their hand of glory take, feels like an easy way to avoid responding/interacting with his content
- i dislike how they say there's scum in you/jv but then vote outside of the pair

i'm not sure they're *more likely* scum than you, but i feel like it's worth exploring

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree.

VOTE: Andante.

I can see that being my final switch for D1, though not because I would have given up on exploration.

FWIW i think grandpamo and andante can be scum together

Maybe.

actually im gonna do something...

UNVOTE: JacksonVirgo

VOTE: Hand of Glory

I'm not sure if I like this.

bad reaction.

also for yall thinking its me and andante ... i dont think mafia alligns that hard day 1. i mean idk if im being trying to scumsided wit andante. but imo they dont seem scummy to me. i still feel like there are better votes.

out of anyone hog, i thought u would vote someone else.

UNVOTE: Hand of Glory

[Hand of Glory]

bad reaction.

also for yall thinking its me and andante ... i dont think mafia alligns that hard day 1. i mean idk if im being trying to scumsided wit andante. but imo they dont seem scummy to me. i still feel like there are better votes.

out of anyone hog, i thought u would vote someone else.

UNVOTE: Hand of Glory

[...] i forgot hog's stance on

[Andante]

though.

I don't see what reason I'd have to be favourable towards Andante right now -- except one: skitter being scum while Andante is town.

If you think that's plausible, I want to know why weren't you joining my vote on skitter when you had the chance -- particularly if you've called skitter/pooky and Jackson/Fizz as containing 2 scum, and Andante as "very town". I told you a scum flip on skitter would make you look "much more like a misguided townie to me", but a town skitter would "not give you good odds of a town read from me" (#241).

And I think you've thought of a certain reason for skitter's switching to Andante like that. Unlike Andante, apparently. In fact, if Andante's confusion about it

is

genuine, that would actually look like a town tell on Andante to me; but I'm not willing to call that it is.

Bad reaction. VOTE: GrandpaMo.

[GrandpaMo]

bad reaction.

also for yall thinking its me and andante ... i dont think mafia alligns that hard day 1. i mean idk if im being trying to scumsided wit andante. but imo they dont seem scummy to me. i still feel like there are better votes.

out of anyone hog, i thought u would vote someone else.

UNVOTE: Hand of Glory

[...] i forgot hog's stance on

[Andante]

though.

I don't see what reason I'd have to be favourable towards Andante right now -- except one: skitter being scum while Andante is town.

If you think that's plausible, I want to know why weren't you joining my vote on skitter when you had the chance -- particularly if you've called skitter/pooky and Jackson/Fizz as containing 2 scum, and Andante as "very town". I told you a scum flip on skitter would make you look "much more like a misguided townie to me", but a town skitter would "not give you good odds of a town read from me" (#241).

And I think you've thought of a certain reason for skitter's switching to Andante like that. Unlike Andante, apparently. In fact, if Andante's confusion about it

is

genuine, that would actually look like a town tell on Andante to me; but I'm not willing to call that it is.

Bad reaction. VOTE: GrandpaMo.

im not voting anyone. i explained my reads.

im pushing more of the jv and pooky narrative today and can vote skitter if i want to. there is still like multiple days left as pooky said and i want to optimize my time lmao

[GeorgeBailey]

Hi george!!!!!

And: mmmmmmmm donuts

Hey! Sorry last night was gonna be my catchup day but I got bad food poisoning from some wonderful week old ground beef! So here's my sorta prodge. I'm just about to leave for work, but things that pinged were

Ahri's averseness to serious reads, and the JV/Grandpa shit fight. I don't think Scum would act the way Ahri is doing, especially since it's getting Ahri scumread, and sorta pissing some people off? I feel like it's a slight town read there.

I'll dive into it when I get home from work today.

[Andante]

Why is no one discussing Ahri?

[GrandpaMo]

can anyone giv me a vanille puffed sprinkled donut

[Fizz Raab]

So why do people think I'm scum? Because I haven't given out proper reads? I don't know how to give out reads like some of you can. This is my first mafia game. Let me know how to give out reads so I can get better at playing this game. I stand by not voting for anyone because I still can't work out in my head who's being town and scum. I stated grandpa was and Ahri too because of one-worded town and scum posts without putting out their actual reasons instead of quoting them, but I don't think I've seen one post of Grandpa giving out any reads though. I haven't I know, but I don't know how to.

[Fizz Raab]

I was meant to put some people in there.

[Andante]

Honestly, I'd vote JV over Grandpa right now. but I'd prefer Ahri

[skitter30]

Why is no one discussing Ahri?

Sorry - are you going to respond to the points i made on the prior page? I feel like i've directed you to them a few times now but havent really heard a response

[skitter30]

Fizz i think you're townie!
George i hope you're ok!

[Andante]

Why is no one discussing Ahri?

Sorry - are you going to respond to the points i made on the prior page? I feel like i've directed you to them a few times now but havent really heard a response

I dont really have an interest in talking to you about differences from last game. Your reads this game have been weird, like Grandpa is my favorite, you TRed them then I said something and you were like "yeah, grandpa scum" like a complete 180

[skitter30]

There were several other things in that post i called out tho, idk why you're fixating on the fact i mentioned you seem different

I mostly want to know why you voted ahri after calling out a dichotomy in jv and grandpamo

[Andante]

why are you so fixated on me?

[Andante]

if you were to just leave me alone, I'd actually be able to find maf here, i'm just annoyed i feel like you're tunneling me when I feel like I've been town af all game??

[skitter30]

Because you didnt answer the things i've been asking, several times now. Makes me feel like you dont actually have an answer

And ok sure, if you've been town all game, can you say how? What am i missing?

[Andante]

Well I obviously missed whatever question you're trying to ask me?? The JV/GM thing? I think it's dumb to try and force our vote in those 2 when Ahri is annoying me by doing absolutely nothing except meming.

how I've been town?? literally look at my ISO... it's town reading the freaking game... town actively gamesolving to find maf. I was the one who got the game going with the entrance stuff. but apparently it means nothing to you

[Hand of Glory]

im pushing more of the jv and pooky narrative today and can vote skitter if i want to. there is still like multiple days left as pooky said and i want to optimize my time lmao

...Good reaction, I think.

UNVOTE: GrandpaMo

I believe my skitter read has to remain undecided for now.

[Ahri]

Well I obviously missed whatever question you're trying to ask me?? The JV/GM thing? I think it's dumb to try and force our vote in those 2 when Ahri is annoying me by doing absolutely nothing except meming.

how I've been town?? literally look at my ISO... it's town reading the freaking game... town actively gamesolving to find maf. I was the one who got the game going with the entrance stuff. but apparently it means nothing to you

so you believe there's 100% a maf in those two, and you refuse to vote inside?

but rather would do a liability elim today?

[GrandpaMo]

Well I obviously missed whatever question you're trying to ask me?? The JV/GM thing? I think it's dumb to try and force our vote in those 2 when Ahri is annoying me by doing absolutely nothing except meming.

how I've been town?? literally look at my ISO... it's town reading the freaking game... town actively gamesolving to find maf. I was the one who got the game going with the entrance stuff. but apparently it means nothing to you

so you believe there's 100% a maf in those two, and you refuse to vote inside?

but rather would do a liability elim today?

am i sus too then

i think there is a possible mafia between pooky and skitter and probably not voting them today but like i said push the jv and fizz narrative today

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I would be big sad if skitter was scum.

Good thing she is town this game :3

[GrandpaMo]

I would be big sad if skitter was scum.

Good thing she is town this game :3

bad quote smh

[skitter30]

heya

@cabd i will be vla from now till monday, with no internet access sat - mon

, as a headsup

[skitter30]

Well I obviously missed whatever question you're trying to ask me?? The JV/GM thing? I think it's dumb to try and force our vote in those 2 when Ahri is annoying me by doing absolutely nothing except meming.

how I've been town?? literally look at my ISO... it's town reading the freaking game... town actively gamesolving to find maf. I was the one who got the game going with the entrance stuff. but apparently it means nothing to you

but i don't understand the first paragraph:
- you seemed confident there's scum in the pair so why not pursue that?
- 1 scum in 2 people is more likely to succesfully hit a scum than 1 scum in 6 people, no?
- i think it's somewhat reductive to say that ahri is doing absolutely nothing other than memeing, she's definitely had some reads

can you show me an example (i.e. a post) where you think you've been particularly townie?

~

pooky i really think andante is scum :(

[skitter30]

I would be big sad if skitter was scum.

Good thing she is town this game :3

i woud be very sad if i were scum too! or if you were scum for that matter. so be town plz!

why am i town?