Open 808: The Council Has Spoken

[T-Bone]

what the HECKA, it ate my paragraph

oh well, TLDR - weird interaction between tbone-mozzy that ends in mutual SR but no real intention to get each other SR'ed by others

Are you his partner? Because I have both so far 'asked people not to put him into a council' and have been very clearly discussing with Raya this scumread.

[T-Bone]

Page 10 is just super weird as a progression. BM talks about scumreading yesiree on page 9, and now with the cover of mozamis on page 10 (who has expressed a real read to his credit) yesiree suddenly chimes in to shade me out of nowhere?

It took yesiree an awfully long time to go from 'i'm not answering enchant cause my name was spelled wrong' in #230, to a chain of mozamis affirming his town reads to shading me in #237.

Contrast these two players, actually. I seem pretty top of mind for mozamis as his professed top scumread. I am yesiree's only scumread (apparently), but he doesn't make that a priority?

[T-Bone]

Can we keep yesiree and mozamis off of all councils, please?

[yessiree]

what the HECKA, it ate my paragraph

oh well, TLDR - weird interaction between tbone-mozzy that ends in mutual SR but no real intention to get each other SR'ed by others

Are you his partner? Because I have both so far 'asked people not to put him into a council' and have been very clearly discussing with Raya this scumread.

by 'asked people not to put him into a council', you are referring to these?

I'll vote for any council that contains myself.

Artemiana is part gut read part something I cannot explain. BM is convenience for me. He hasn't done anything scummy (nor have most players at this point). I'm pretty strong on Artemiana, I could take or leave most of the playerlist as my 3rd councilmember.

and by 'discussing with Raya this scumread', you are referring to this?

OH lol he votes me a couple of posts later. Yeah, lock scum I think.

Artemiana is part gut read part something I cannot explain. BM is convenience for me. He hasn't done anything scummy (nor have most players at this point). I'm pretty strong on Artemiana, I could take or leave most of the playerlist as my 3rd councilmember.

Who wouldn't you take from the playerlist then?

mozamis!

nuh-uh

I'm onto you t-bonerita

[T-Bone]

Spoiler: really weird interaction between tbone and mozamis feat. TBONE

I'm secretly a bit of a T-Bone fan

that's great and all, but you can't possibly knpw whether he is town or scum yet. Best to unvote.

Battle Mage and I are Masons.

I'm generally against plans because it fosters fake cooperation. I'd rather people independently play their best. Yes, it means cooperation is harder, but it also means it is more genuine (and thus less prone to manipulation).

what are your reads so far?

I have 6 posts. You honestly can't find me expressing any reads?

Vote: mozamis

TLDR, weird interaction in what appears to be distancing that ends in mutual SR but no real intent to get each other SR'ed by the rest of town
Caught scum.

OH lol he votes me a couple of posts later. Yeah, lock scum I think.

Spoiler: Cont. feat. mozzy

I'm generally against plans because it fosters fake cooperation. I'd rather people independently play their best. Yes, it means cooperation is harder, but it also means it is more genuine (and thus less prone to manipulation).

what are your reads so far?

So far Enchant, Almost, BM, Yes town.
Arte prob town.
Tbone worries me a bit.

So scum are in:
Nono, TBone
lol i have town read everyone else
game solved then!

VOTE: T BONE

What even IS this post? Can someone explain this? Is this not the epitome of 'posting dumbshit for the sake of posting dumbshit'??

You've discovered that mozamis didn't read any of this game before expressing a scumread on me, and then me pointing it out. Congratulations? Post #189 is really the biggest slam dunk of the game so far in terms of the progression of this game. (although #251 is a strong contender)

[yessiree]

Page 10 is just super weird as a progression. BM talks about scumreading yesiree on page 9, and now with the cover of mozamis on page 10 (who has expressed a real read to his credit) yesiree suddenly chimes in to shade me out of nowhere?

It took yesiree an awfully long time to go from 'i'm not answering enchant cause my name was spelled wrong' in #230, to a chain of mozamis affirming his town reads to shading me in #237.

Contrast these two players, actually. I seem pretty top of mind for mozamis as his professed top scumread. I am yesiree's only scumread (apparently), but he doesn't make that a priority?

well I'm elim-voting you, so I'd say it's a pretty big priority alright

[T-Bone]

Something that was so important you had to make a joke to refuse to cooperate with Enchant first and then sit on it for awhile before asking the thread permission to scumread me.

Was that the point you realized that mozamis was already voting me and thus you felt safe enough to fake this read?

[yessiree]

I'm posting from work (I live in Asia ATM), got dragged away for a sec. But whatevs bro, didn't know jokes are outlawed

[T-Bone]

To mozamis' credit (and something I have to reevaluate in light of the absolute dumpster fire of progression yesiree just displayed) his progression to scum-read and cast a vote on me was clear, if very performative and scummy. It's like yesiree saw the absolute scumfest mozamis' progression of #170 to #174 and went 'hold my beer. I can do this but way worse!'

Yesiree's posts between #230 and #246 are just a masterpiece of scumposting.

[T-Bone]

I'm posting from work (I live in Asia ATM), got dragged away for a sec. But whatevs bro, didn't know jokes are outlawed

Deflecting by not addressing the issue I am raising.

[T-Bone]

For a 10 page game, I think I've done well to lay something out that makes sense. I need someone to check me and make sure I'm not falling into confirmation bias. Raya??

[Enchant]

T-Bone: BM, Artemiana
Almost50: mozamis
Enchant: Nono
yessiree: BM
Artemiana: Battle Mage, Mozamis, Raya36
Nono: Artemiana
mozamis: Almost50
Battle Mage: Raya36, Artemiana, Nono
Raya36: Battle Mage

BM (4), Artemiana (3), Raya36 (2), Mozamis (2), Nono (2), Almost50 (1)

Eh. BM probably won. So, i expect ya choose T-Bone who choose Artemiana? We-e-ell, fine?

[T-Bone]

BM actually voted for a new council that didn't include me because he's a bad mason buddy.

[Enchant]

Yell at him in private thread then.

[Enchant]

mozamis revoted for BM as well, didn't notice. Ok, BM certanly won.

Battle Mage, choose someone.

[yessiree]

I'm posting from work (I live in Asia ATM), got dragged away for a sec. But whatevs bro, didn't know jokes are outlawed

Deflecting by not addressing the issue I am raising.

what issue are you raising? is it the fact that I responded to enchant and my next couple posts came 20 minutes after? like what?

[Enchant]

Yeah, thanks for vote, yussire.

[yessiree]

Page 10 is just super weird as a progression. BM talks about scumreading yesiree on page 9, and now with the cover of mozamis on page 10 (who has expressed a real read to his credit) yesiree suddenly chimes in to shade me out of nowhere?

It took yesiree an awfully long time to go from 'i'm not answering enchant cause my name was spelled wrong' in #230, to a chain of mozamis affirming his town reads to shading me in #237.

Contrast these two players, actually. I seem pretty top of mind for mozamis as his professed top scumread. I am yesiree's only scumread (apparently), but he doesn't make that a priority?

You're not my only scumread. you must've missed the part where I specifically called tbone-mozzy scumteam

[yessiree]

Yeah, thanks for vote, yussire.

now you are doing it on purpose

HURT: enchonk

[Enchant]

Yes.

[Almost50]

Also others can change vote/add more like T-Bone/Artemiana did.

OK then. My choices are unpopular it seems, but I'll add them anyway:

HEAL: Moz, T-Bone, Yessiree

[Almost50]

In green, you seem to be arguing from a starting point that the potential scumslip is a towntell, and eventually concluding it is NAI. Which is the opposite angle to the one I was taking. Can you explain that approach?

It's really pretty simple:

Would Town do it? YES (I often do, because I speak from my PoV).
Is it a Towntell then? NO, as Scum could try to emulate their Town play too.
Result: It's NAI

In blue, why do you use the qualifier "aside from that"?

Because I'm obviously arguing that this particular point is NAI, thus don't/didn't want anyone to get confused as to why I am TRing Moz still. The TR has nothing to do with this particular point.

[Almost50]

I though about Council for a bit and have feeling, it's not so usefull overall.

I don't want to give mafia tips, so i will tell this when this become issue.

This is not game related, but I'm curious: Is the way you post for real or is it a gimmick?

[Almost50]

Wow you changing fast.

You can say that again.

Inb4 you type the same sentence in anew post.

[Enchant]

I though about Council for a bit and have feeling, it's not so usefull overall.

I don't want to give mafia tips, so i will tell this when this become issue.

This is not game related, but I'm curious: Is the way you post for real or is it a gimmick?

Secret info, you will be nightkilled if i tell.


Actually didn't understand, do ya think i'm faking something?