Open 808: The Council Has Spoken

[mozamis]

Well, Tbone has amped their contributions which kooks town. Leaving me with one scumread lol
Ah well early day one, Ican liv with that. Still dont really want T on council just in case my early gut read is valid.
BM, Almost, Yessiree council? Yesirees "Moz and Tbone are bussing scum" looks paranoid town to me.

[mozamis]

Enchant is null tho.
They have done a lot of "organise the council posts", but not many reads. Info w/out analysis. Not saying scum, but null. Not council material.
Sorry if you are "helpful town" tho!

[Almost50]

Sorry about falling off the face of the planet. Internet went down (actually all phone lines in the area went down for about 40 minutes)

Anyway, where was I? Oh, yes..

does anyone tr t-bone? cause I don't.

O have him in my council recommendations. Can you take a hint?

[Almost50]

I actually think the t-bone-mozzyman team to be a real possibility

Are you calling me

ducky

the worst player on the list?

[yessiree]

I actually think the t-bone-mozzyman team to be a real possibility

Are you calling me

ducky

the worst player on the list?

that is already claimed, and don't you dare take it away from me

[Almost50]

Can we keep yesiree and mozamis off of all councils, please?

You're clipping both my wings and asking me to fly here. Aside from them two, I only have you as a

confident

TR. And -even worse- I am not allowed to heal myself, so I can't even use the global TR on BM option to complete my trio.

Well, the closest to a TR aside from the above is Raya I guess, and I won't fight against an Enchant council membership, but then I feel like I'm "giving in" and when that happens I am highly likely to misread a scumster as a townie.

Wait! That does look like a read list of some sort. Let me try to put it in a more readable form:

T-Bone/mozamis
yessiree

BM/Raya/Enchant

Nono/Artemiana

If I use my super intellectual gift I'd say one scum in BM/Raya/Enchant and the other is in Nono/Atemiana (but don't quote me on any of that yet. I'll only take responsibility of my reads on the top 3 so far)

[Almost50]

I live in Asia ATM

Beware lest the smile leaves your eyes

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

Also others can change vote/add more like T-Bone/Artemiana did.

OK then. My choices are unpopular it seems, but I'll add them anyway:

HEAL: Moz, T-Bone, Yessiree

I guess this came way too late???

HURT: ALL

[Almost50]

Actually didn't understand, do ya think i'm faking something?

Sometimes.. yes. Your .. erm.. how do I say this? You have an unnatural

accent

, if I may say so. Sometimes I think you're doing typos on purpose. I could be wrong though.

[Almost50]

that is already claimed, and don't you dare take it away from me

I'm willing to fight for it. Are you?

[Enchant]

Actually didn't understand, do ya think i'm faking something?

Sometimes.. yes. Your .. erm.. how do I say this? You have an unnatural

accent

, if I may say so. Sometimes I think you're doing typos on purpose. I could be wrong though.

It's actually combination of my bad grammar and lazyness. So it's normal for me. I'm not native speaker of english.

[yessiree]

T-Bone/mozamis
yessiree

BM/Raya/Enchant

Nono/Artemiana

If I use my super intellectual gift I'd say one scum in BM/Raya/Enchant and the other is in Nono/Atemiana (but don't quote me on any of that yet. I'll only take responsibility of my reads on the top 3 so far)

well, would you look at that, looks exactly the same as mine, just with the order reversed

raya/arte/nono/BM/enchant/a50 are all of varying shades of green for me

[Enchant]

Aren't you say you scumread me

[yessiree]

Aren't you say you scumread me

no, did i s-s-stutter?

[Enchant]

I mistaked you with Artemiana. Well, sorry, yassure.

[T-Bone]

Enchant, can you ignore your plan for a bit and provide some game analysis and/or some reads?

[Enchant]

I can.

Why you want to know exactly? I doesh't have strong minds right now.

[Raya36]

Council Voting 1.03

Battle Mage, T-Bone, Artemiana (3):

Battle Mage, Artemiana, T-Bone

Raya36, Battle Mage, Enchant (1):

Raya36

Enchant, Battle Mage, T-Bone (1):

Enchant

Mozamis, T-Bone, Yessiree (1):

Almost50

Not Voting (3):

yessiree, Nono, mozamis

When 5 players vote for the same council of three, they will be the day's council.
The only votes for the council I will accept is if all three members are in the same post. I don't mind you using heal tags otherwise, but I'm not going to piece together your heal tags to make a team.

does anyone tr t-bone? cause I don't.

I also do not and would prefer a council without him

[Raya36]

Artemiana is part gut read part something I cannot explain. BM is convenience for me. He hasn't done anything scummy (nor have most players at this point). I'm pretty strong on Artemiana, I could take or leave most of the playerlist as my 3rd councilmember.

Who wouldn't you take from the playerlist then?

mozamis!

Anyone else though?

[Raya36]

Anyway, good call for voting BM for council he is so likely town.

Why does this read so unnaturally to me?

[Raya36]

Can we keep yesiree and mozamis off of all councils, please?

Fine by me. All 3 of you should be kept off this council at least

[Raya36]

Also others can change vote/add more like T-Bone/Artemiana did.

OK then. My choices are unpopular it seems, but I'll add them anyway:

HEAL: Moz, T-Bone, Yessiree

Well that would be exactly everyone I said no to

[Raya36]

You're clipping both my wings and asking me to fly here. Aside from them two, I only have you as a

confident

TR. And -even worse- I am not allowed to heal myself, so I can't even use the global TR on BM option to complete my trio.

Why don't you think you can vote yourself?

[brassherald]

Council Voting 1.04

Battle Mage, T-Bone, Artemiana (2):

Battle Mage, T-Bone

Raya36, Battle Mage, Artermiana (1):

Raya36

Enchant, Battle Mage, T-Bone (1):

Enchant

Mozamis, T-Bone, Yessiree (1):

Almost50

Raya36, Nono, Battle Mage (1):

Artemiana

Not Voting (3):

yessiree, Nono, mozamis

When 5 players vote for the same council of three, they will be the day's council.
The only votes for the council I will accept is if all three members are in the same post. I don't mind you using heal tags otherwise, but I'm not going to piece together your heal tags to make a team.

Elim Voting 1.04

mozamis (2):

Battle Mage, T-Bone

T-Bone (2):

mozamis, yessiree

Enchant (1):

Raya36

Not Voting (4):

Almost50, Enchant, Artemiana, Nono

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.
Day 1 will end without a council or an elimination in (expired on 2021-04-01 08:40:00)

[Raya36]

For a 10 page game, I think I've done well to lay something out that makes sense. I need someone to check me and make sure I'm not falling into confirmation bias. Raya??

Coming back to this now that I'm not phoneposting.

Spoiler: my take

what the HECKA, it ate my paragraph

oh well, TLDR - weird interaction between tbone-mozzy that ends in mutual SR but no real intention to get each other SR'ed by others

Are you his partner? Because I have both so far 'asked people not to put him into a council' and have been very clearly discussing with Raya this scumread.

You definitely made it clear you don't want him on the council but there wasn't really a discussion with me about it. You expressed a scumread and explained why but besides saying you don't want him on the council to me we didn't discuss anything.

Page 10 is just super weird as a progression. BM talks about scumreading yesiree on page 9, and now with the cover of mozamis on page 10 (who has expressed a real read to his credit) yesiree suddenly chimes in to shade me out of nowhere?

It took yesiree an awfully long time to go from 'i'm not answering enchant cause my name was spelled wrong' in #230, to a chain of mozamis affirming his town reads to shading me in #237.

Contrast these two players, actually. I seem pretty top of mind for mozamis as his professed top scumread. I am yesiree's only scumread (apparently), but he doesn't make that a priority?

The out of nowhere scumread/shade on you was a little odd. Would've been better if they just voted you to begin with and gave some sort of reason. I do think it could have been testing the waters before placing a vote although I'm not sure why scum would feel hesitant to just vote.

I don't think the timing is an issue. It was only 20m between posts which is sometimes what it takes to skim through the thread again and decide a vote. It is a bit concerning that one of Mozamis' posts in between was saying you look the least town.

I'm not really seeing much of a problem with Mozamis besides enough doubt around his slot caused by the potential slip to not want him on the council. I wouldn't go as far as to say yessiree is scum but I do think we should be wary and not have him on the council either.

Spoiler: really weird interaction between tbone and mozamis feat. TBONE

I'm secretly a bit of a T-Bone fan

that's great and all, but you can't possibly knpw whether he is town or scum yet. Best to unvote.

Battle Mage and I are Masons.

I'm generally against plans because it fosters fake cooperation. I'd rather people independently play their best. Yes, it means cooperation is harder, but it also means it is more genuine (and thus less prone to manipulation).

what are your reads so far?

I have 6 posts. You honestly can't find me expressing any reads?

Vote: mozamis

TLDR, weird interaction in what appears to be distancing that ends in mutual SR but no real intent to get each other SR'ed by the rest of town
Caught scum.

OH lol he votes me a couple of posts later. Yeah, lock scum I think.

Spoiler: Cont. feat. mozzy

I'm generally against plans because it fosters fake cooperation. I'd rather people independently play their best. Yes, it means cooperation is harder, but it also means it is more genuine (and thus less prone to manipulation).

what are your reads so far?

So far Enchant, Almost, BM, Yes town.
Arte prob town.
Tbone worries me a bit.

So scum are in:
Nono, TBone
lol i have town read everyone else
game solved then!

VOTE: T BONE

What even IS this post? Can someone explain this? Is this not the epitome of 'posting dumbshit for the sake of posting dumbshit'??

You've discovered that mozamis didn't read any of this game before expressing a scumread on me, and then me pointing it out. Congratulations? Post #189 is really the biggest slam dunk of the game so far in terms of the progression of this game. (although #251 is a strong contender)

Agree that this post didn't make much sense (Ignore the messed up spoilers)

So basically I don't agree that mozamis and yessiree are partners or even that moz is necessarily scummy. But I could definitely see yessiree being scum.