Newbie 2059 - Scummer's Baking Championship (Baked Over)

[Hand of Glory]

even me, ultimately, bc i didnt get you were all mocking me bc i was trying to decipher a puzzle i was setting up for myself

this is real satire

[GrandpaMo]

even me, ultimately, bc i didnt get you were all mocking me bc i was trying to decipher a puzzle i was setting up for myself

this is real satire

what happened to your analytical posts that andante skips over lmfao

ur being like me rn and i dont like it sob

[GrandpaMo]

I would be big sad if skitter was scum.

Good thing she is town this game :3

bad quote smh

im still so paranoid about this, can anyone tell me if this sounds scum?

[skitter30]

i mean lets say he doesn't know that and he's just a newb who doesn't know how to handle pressure / vote.

Does this type of reaction come more from newb scum or newb town?

I'd think it's more likely from newb town who is like super exasperated and truly doesn't think there's any good reason for why you would vote him.

whereas newb scum might actually like try to figure out how you figured out it was them? Since there is an underlying sense in newb scum that they know you are right.

@pooky you said this r.e. andante but like i really disagree and find this very unsatisfying

[skitter30]

Hand, what do you think of andante?

[skitter30]

George are you going to be catching up here soon?

[GeorgeBailey]

Yes yes I am here now and catching up. Sorry being a lurk sack.

[Hand of Glory]

Oh shit, I think my #349 has been worded badly. Sometimes I do that. ("Distance. I don't like cozying up." for instance was a reminder to myself about the role, not a real self-description)

"might as well ask for a modkill" is missing the pronoun

I

, not

you

[Hand of Glory]

The "I fucking hate this game" line is outdated btw, it was when I was still assuming this to be an authentic game, but with a meta I hadn't caught up on until half the town had covertly aligned against me. I think I love this game and I think you've all loved it too, or you would have stopped me earlier. Right? Just the facts and logic.

Since I am the only scum, you were all town, and you were

all

amazing. Even if that might be "brownie points" (hey, it's the wiki that says to have your scumbuddy's back). I'll have more to say a bit later. If you want.

VOTE: Ahri

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@pooky you said this r.e. andante but like i really disagree and find this very unsatisfying

ok well I'll sheep ya if you feel like super strongly about it :>

[Andante]

@pooky you said this r.e. andante but like i really disagree and find this very unsatisfying

ok well I'll sheep ya if you feel like super strongly about it :>

Pooky, Skitter is like looking at me through a conf scum pov, refuses to consider me being town, I would not lett skitter convince you I'm scum, especially not today, just give me time!! That being said, I'm busy today/tomorrow morning, so I'll probably stop by again tonight.

[skitter30]

Pooky like ig i'm just not seeing town?
Andante's still kinda avoiding answering things

Andante - its not that i'm refusing to consider you town, but you're refusing to provide me with the information i'm asking for, so i'm not sure what you're expecting from me here

[Andante]

I'm literally not refusing to answer anything, I'm definitely behind right now again. here I'll answer right now. throw questions at me

[skitter30]

for andante, a few things:
- they feel kinda weird as compared to newbie 2057, which i just played with them. this isn't inherently scummy but is of note
- i dislike their hand of glory take, feels like an easy way to avoid responding/interacting with his content
- i dislike how they say there's scum in you/jv but then vote outside of the pair

You've never addressed the latter two points, and i think this is like the fifth (?) time i asked now

[skitter30]

Also how are you reading me

[Andante]

Sorry, I kept missing them, I told yall I wanted ahri here, then basically stopped reading, checking back for if ahri decided to towntell, which she hasn't

* hand of glory. when I am behind and trying to catch up, giant paragraphs are terrible to read, I'm not a fan. so like, it's just a me thing, it's hard to comprehend the paragraphs quickly, and reminds me exactly how I first started playing as scum. you post long "wall posts" and people skim, and it looks like you say a lot. I tried skimming and got confused on one, then just gave up

*dislike scum in me/jv?? no I said if 1 was town the other was for sure going to be maf, but I don't fully remember what I said in that situation, I know GM has gotten a lot of heat this game, GM hasn't responded in a way I think scum would respond, but that's about as far as I am on those right now

[Andante]

Well for you, I was just gonna call you town/leave you alone till I had a reason not to tr you, but you tunneling me over ahri?? excuse me??? I don't even know what I think at the moment.

[Andante]

Well for you, I was just gonna call you town/leave you alone till I had a reason not to tr you, but you tunneling me over ahri?? excuse me??? I don't even know what I think at the moment.

not even sure, and I also don't have the time right now to look at Fizz/George, I'll ISO them tonight (IRL.. like 12 hours from now) and figure out my thoughts

[Hand of Glory]

Yeah, I realize more yet now.

The "catgirl vs. eurosnob" idea was just idiotic. It was a shit idea to suggest it, no less so as "theatre". Nothing else to say there. I didn't mean it as "emotional~ random dumb! vs. analytical", as you presented it. Or I would probably have noticed all of you using it sooner.

I shouldn't have said anything about the character of Ahri, ever, not knowing her.

If I called Ahri a "magical [!] 8-ball" on thread, that was just mafia misdirection and not my actual judgment of Ahri.
If I called her a "deep-space oracle" or "vig shot D1" backstage, it was meant as "energy", because I'd read that you should boost your scumbuddy, not as her being "random" at all. I've said here that I didn't think she was being random.

But again -- I shouldn't have said shit about someone I don't know. Who hates me now. Rightly.

"Spewing lies."
It

was

my first online mafia game. I've lurked elsewhere (probably also not understanding much), and I've played irl (years before), and I've inhaled the wiki far too much and believed in it far too much -- yeah.
I drew scum, was anxious to be "proactive", and always tell my partner all my thoughts to avoid cornering them into an impossible situation by miscoordination. Went well. I realize I gave too many "instructions" to Ahri, all that micromanagement. They weren't meant as commands, they really just were what I thought.

I did try to read the thread and make sense of it. Then you all mock that I don't know where to begin engaging if the entire thread is always "scum reading" what I'm doing.

"Being aggressive."
You were setting me up for that by being intentionally stupid in two different ways. There's also parts where I called the sudden counterstrategies or scum pair calls strikingly smart.

@skitter

"What do you think of Andante?"
On the private thread? Astonishing scumdar, not good at selling it, and play early on that I called newbish or terrible while being a newb myself. Yeah, that's arrogant, though if you've seen people give these tells, it happens. You all made a point of using intentionally terrible scum tells.

On this thread? I thought that their intentionally obfuscating posts were annoying me, also irl for saying that their style is annoying me. Sure, I get that Ahri thinks the same about me, but I never called

her

style annoying. It is precisely nothing like what Andante used. Ahri used her own style throughout the thread as I thought she would, not this "like whatever idk how it's even, i'll iso them tonight" -- that's precisely why I

liked

(what I thought was) Ahri's style.

I'm sorry, all of you.

[Hand of Glory]

...but I also said that Andante "was kicking off the catgirl vs. eurosnob discussion", so maybe I'm actually more idiotic and biased than I'd thought.

I don't think I think women are dumber than men. Or less analytical. Or more emotional.

And the style on the private thread is different because I'm not really "analytical". I was trying to play it like that. But yeah. Very weak analysis as shown.

[Hand of Glory]

I didn't want to hurt you all.

[skitter30]

... did i like miss the whole convo that you're talking abt?

Hog maybe i'm missing something super obvious but idk what you're talking abt

@andante i will try to respond shortly

[Andante]

Hand, what are you referring to?? (and yall wonder why I don't understand hand's posts)

All I got from that was how you TR Ahri for keeping the same style, and you SR me for?? idk

Please tell me how you are so confident Ahri is town? Ahri has not outed a single real read. not doing ANYTHING. I get highly annoyed when I'm putting forth all this effort then someone decided to turn the game into a joke. none of ahri's lines are towny

[Fizz Raab]

So explain to me you guys as someone who's never played mafia and want to get better at playing the game; how do you do reads? I want to help, but I don't know how to do this.

[Cabd]