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I'm back here.

VOTE: Amélie

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Flea is a townlean.

Very similar to what I remember from town!Flea in other games in the sense of gamesolving.

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But I don't exactly agree with the arguments being used to justify scum!Dgb. The reaction does not reflect me as scummy, regardless of how many times I read that post period between Dgb/Dann.

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It would be better if Dgb participated actively in the game and shared its reads. Based on this we can better judge whether the slot is scum or not.

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In relation to Amélie, the wall was very poor and her read on me is based exclusively on the way I'm seeing her slot, almost like a mirror. A town mentality would try to evaluate the other actions in my slot as a whole to determine whether I'm scum or town and not just based on a single read, so my impression of the slot has not yet changed.

[clidd]

Something I've noticed

its

is

town AtE tends to be more apathetic and more nuanced, scum AtE is HERES MY EMOTIONS NOW SUFFER. To me, DGBs AtE lacks the nuance of town AtE.

Fixing this now I've noticed before it bites me in the ass. This is a general case and not a specific to DGB one.

My vote on Dgb was before I saw this, btw.

[clidd]

I'll give some time for Pooky to relax and see what he can get from the game.

But if there is no townhunting or scumhunting on his part, the slot is probably scum.

[VFP]

Town / watcher wouldn't be on my mind.

This should say tracker / watcher.

The rest of the post is mainly about the AtE. I'm never going to be one that judges on AtE with the alignment. Trying to convince me will always be a waste if time.
I do see what you are trying to get at with the lack of posting when the heat died off, but there's not much difference to me if scum or town act like this after a minor freak out.
If scum, feels defeated for getting caught and let the scum team down.
If town, feels defeated due to the reasons given, assumebly.

If you argue that Dann having a result on DGB is a reason on it's own then why did Dann stop voting?
It falls back to there can't be many roles you get a 90% convinced scum result and you go with the 10% instead.
There are no shenanigans like bus driver or redirector and Dann would know this.

If anything your argument should be, why did Dann back off so easily and that Dann is your favoured scum not DGB, surely?

[Flea The Magician]

Honestly, aint that familiar with the boundaries in normals, I like my chaos. I'll rep into one when I'm gettin under gamed.

What I do know, DGB can drop a mean claim. DGB has enough knowledge and capablity to drop a beast of a fakeclaim like a N1 Psych because it means they dont have to do naff all for the rest of the game.

Detectives start weak, get stronger.
Psychs start strong, get weaker. Why limit a role that loses power almost completely by N3?

Of the claims I've seen, what is that the only one with a night limit?

Dann also claimed that the roles that are claimed cant all exist in the same game from a balance perspective.

Mechanical Guilty, oddly balanced role mech claim, orbs out AtE. That cannot be scum in my eyes.

[Flea The Magician]

Mech Guilty with >90% even.

If DBG flips green, then tomorrow Pooks is gettin torched.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you think Dannflor faked a guilty on D2 and it just happened to land on a TPR that visited the dead person?

[Flea The Magician]

Not a chance, honestly. but if you're alive tomorrow a claim is gunna be needed.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I kinda doubt I am alive tomorrow but sure I will claim if I need to tomorrow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like there is a chance that DGB really is a psych who visited the night 1 kill and like that's super unfortunate >.>

but I would expect DGB to crumb the role if DGB really was a psych cuz I've seen DGB crumb roles before.

[DrippingGoofball]

well i know dgb crumbs PR because the last time we played together dgb crumbed vanilla cop and flipped vanilla cop?

so I want to see where dgb crumbed this game or if this is something dgb made up because dgb thinks this is a tracker guilty

I thought I did crumb?

[DrippingGoofball]

Looks like I had a clever idea to crumb but forgot the implementation.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I dunno if you crumbed because I haven't read the game

[DrippingGoofball]

I thought I did but didn't.

I wish I'd been NK'd, of course I wasn't because I'm yeetbait.

This is going to be yet another stupid annoying day for me and I just want to see Flea's arrogance about knowing how my mind works deflate spectacularly.

This vote is protown and in furtherance of my wincon.

VOTE: DGB

Just kill me now.

My investigating Biped was the mistake that will cost the town the game and it's on me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

~.~

you shouldn't self-vote dear if you are town >.>

[clidd]

I will probably adopt an elimination policy on any slot that makes a self-vote + AtE. It's an unethical conduct and difficult to assess in AI terms.

[clidd]

If you're scum, fine, you're doing your thing.

But if you're town, that's the same as scumsiding.

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And I do think that your frustration is coming from town, Dgb, but you're putting me in a difficult position by not sharing reads and insisting on self victimization.

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I mean, your investigation is not the mistake that is causing you to be pushed, but the lack of collaboration. Town will not lose the game if you are eliminated today (and is town), but scum will have the advantage. There is always the possibility of reassessment, but you are not seeing that for some reason.

[VFP]

I agree with Clidd here.
This refers back to my 1411 where at this stage if the focus can't divert from the AtE response alone, the game isn't going to progress.

Flea talk to me outside of DGB as a whole.
Point me to your catch up post as needed as admitted I haven't read it yet.
Can you check amelie's iso and check the read lists with the surrounding opinions on those reads? Do the swaps in reads make sense or at least have reasons?
Do they seem convenient to the general game narrative?
If DGB Flips scum, who's next? I think at this point we can just agree and throw out Pooky and DGB as ever being a scum pairing.

[VFP]

Where's your thoughts at, Pooky?