Warehouse 13: The Mafia Game (Game Over)

[Cabd]

Stealing this pagetop.

[MathBlade]

Final Afternoon Vote Count

Afternoon 1 will end in (expired on 2021-03-01 23:59:59)

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to Bronze.

Dunnstral (1): quiet
SirCakez (7): mastina, Dunnstral, Kitty Trauma Team, Lady Lambdadelta, PookyTheMagicalbear, Titus, MathBlade
mastina (9--BRONZED): GreyICE, Prism, Battle Mage, Tammy, SirCakez, borkjerfkin, Bell, Sangres, Spiffeh

Not voting (0):


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Battle Mage is V/LA until Monday evening
LLD is V/LA.

Flip incoming

Not voting is 0.

By VCA (ignoring play/mechanics) I really should be going after Prism/Spiffeh or notty/Spiffeh. I just can’t buy that either of those are any sort of valid when if Bork is town, scum Spiffeh would poison me.

Bell Sangres and Spiffeh are all lock town.
Titus being on Cakez is a good look for her unless she was trying to no elim it. She’s not entirely out of the elimination pool but this looks better combined with her VCA suggesting BM.

It kinda irks me that three scum would have to be on Mastina when her wagon was second though IIRC. Will have to double check. Titus just doesn’t sit right with me play wise and VCA wise.

I kinda think elim Battle Mage is the right play strategically but I think Battle Mage flips town and if I had a vig or poison I vig or poison Titus.

I am trying to make three scum on Mastina work and I am having a lot of trouble doing so without one of the core block in Prism/Tammy/Grey(notty) being scum.

The most likely of those would be Notty if my memory serves and the wagon was second and it would have been a sacrifice goon play. The way town ended on Mastina versus the PR doesn’t suggest intent though.

These wagons don’t make sense.

[MathBlade]

To be fair I think Titus’s play is a lot better today I just am having trouble sorting her still considering the D1/D2/D3 play.

[MathBlade]

What’s even more troubling is that scum in the PoE aren’t pushing like anyone.

We need to have those in the PoE drive so we can see who they want elimmed imho.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think there's a good chance Battle Mage and Bork are the last two baddies.

[Battle Mage]

just popping in

i'm fine being elimmed today - i bottled Cakez vote at the last minute as the game was just so stagnant. gave me a bad wagonomics vibe, but i was wrong.

Tomorrow I'd start with notscience - the only player to really call attention to my vote switch at the day end (and of course, scum would be doubly-incentivised to play that up, to throw shade on me yesterday in the hope to distract from Cakez, and failing that to tie me to Cakez.

But seriously - I'm a claimed miller, I need to be elimmed sooner or later.

i did have some other thoughts which I'll cobble together later, which will be my parting contribution!

[Battle Mage]

ah sorry, where i say "game" so stagnant above, i mean "wagon"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

speak of the devil o.O

[MathBlade]

I think there's a good chance Battle Mage and Bork are the last two baddies.

I am getting the same feeling I got in Draft Mafia Pooky.

This feels too easy.

[Battle Mage]

lol it aint that easy - i'm town, but i'm expendable at this stage

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alright I guess time to give it the old college try and actually read what happened for the 4th time >.>

[Prism]

I think a major annoyance here is it's ambiguous in interpreting how a lot of slots voted now that it's S/S. For example, even though Math is, well, math, he probably values the qualitative play of Mastina over the mechanical power Cakez had. BM/bork could go either way. I probably would have just been annoyed at both of them, shoved mastina harder than I actually did, and then taken up the banner for Cakez the rest of the game calling to the heavens obvtown for scum counterwagon reasons.

Tammy came out better for the CC+wanting to swap over to Cakez and made a big baller move if she's scum, especially since she'd risk running into a REAL town artifact usage detector. Arguably that would set Cakez up well but that plan has disaster written all over it and I strongly doubt she's scum.

The only person voting neither wagon flipped town. Dunnstral wagon is our best clue, but Spiffeh's town. Titus jumped on only after Spiffeh specifically requested her to so ? The only other people on it were BM/Math. 3 people, hypothetically 2 can be scum, but only 1 is more likely, and 0 is possible though it'd be shocking.

The scumflip definitely helped me out because I was always working under the framework that he was probably town, even though I rationally knew he could be scum that wasn't really my framework for the game. Watching him flip town would have just been super annoying/disappointing, because that was always what I was working with anyway.

[Prism]

btw everyone say something nice to tammy so she stays engaged out of spite for the scumteam, meanest person to silence but definitely the most effective pick

my nice thing is ff7 fuckin blows LMAO

[Prism]

Strong contender for the cause? Doubt this will actually wind up being useful but you never know

[Prism]

nvm these seem fancreated goddamnit ok

[Dunnstral]

I haven't used any artifacts yet

[Prism]

At some point I gotta try again

One day

[MathBlade]

I think a major annoyance here is it's ambiguous in interpreting how a lot of slots voted now that it's S/S. For example, even though Math is, well, math, he probably values the qualitative play of Mastina over the mechanical power Cakez had. BM/bork could go either way. I probably would have just been annoyed at both of them, shoved mastina harder than I actually did, and then taken up the banner for Cakez the rest of the game calling to the heavens obvtown for scum counterwagon reasons.

Tammy came out better for the CC+wanting to swap over to Cakez and made a big baller move if she's scum, especially since she'd risk running into a REAL town artifact usage detector. Arguably that would set Cakez up well but that plan has disaster written all over it and I strongly doubt she's scum.

The only person voting neither wagon flipped town. Dunnstral wagon is our best clue, but Spiffeh's town. Titus jumped on only after Spiffeh specifically requested her to so ? The only other people on it were BM/Math. 3 people, hypothetically 2 can be scum, but only 1 is more likely, and 0 is possible though it'd be shocking.

The scumflip definitely helped me out because I was always working under the framework that he was probably town, even though I rationally knew he could be scum that wasn't really my framework for the game. Watching him flip town would have just been super annoying/disappointing, because that was always what I was working with anyway.

I agree with 90% of this besides the stuff about my scum meta but hey right conclusion so yay!

The issue I am having is SirCakez flipped Mafia Detector/Thief.

We don’t know what he could detect or what he could steal.

Cakez knew he didn’t look good. If I am scum!Cakez on D3/N3 I steal something.

[MathBlade]

Hey Prism

You said your thing is a PT cop right?

And your negative consequence? PT by yourself right?

Is there anything else hidden? Simple yes/no is fine. I don’t want to know what.

But see if your PT cop was a ton of innos, why didn’t scum steal from you or seemingly anyone else?

[Prism]

Correct, there is nothing else to the scarf. Power returns whether or not target has had access to a non-notes PT at any point in the game, negative effect is PT containing only myself for the rest of the game. The question I asked the mod yesterday was about resolution order for another PT cop/me being put in the PT, received answer that a samenight investigation on me would return a "Yes", and so claimed it then.

It is unclear when Cakez's theft would resolve but given that he was voted out the same day I got the scarf, I think it's very obvious why it did not get stolen lol

[notscience]

I could either see all scum on the mastina wagon sans mastina or an even split I think. More when I get home.

[Prism]

Another reason I outed it was the way I did it-"I'm no longer a good target for a PT cop"-wasn't just to guard myself but to lead scum to believe I was a neighborizer or something like that rather than a useful investigative.

I also asked bork yesterday about whether he targeted anyone else with the same power because the soft w/ sangres heavily implied a neighborhood and I wanted to know if I needed to worry about someone besides Bell/bork returning a false positive.

[MathBlade]

Correct, there is nothing else to the scarf. Power returns whether or not target has had access to a non-notes PT at any point in the game, negative effect is PT containing only myself for the rest of the game. The question I asked the mod yesterday was about resolution order for another PT cop/me being put in the PT, received answer that a samenight investigation on me would return a "Yes", and so claimed it then.

It is unclear when Cakez's theft would resolve but given that he was voted out the same day I got the scarf, I think it's very obvious why it did not get stolen lol

Why do you think being in a PT by yourself is a negative consequence?

[Prism]

Ask penguin, but my guess would be another PT cop/red herring of one, which is again half of why I immediately said "I am no longer a good target for a PT cop" after asking the resolutuon question Day 3 (and I telegraphed in advance I was asking this question)

[MathBlade]

Yeah something doesn’t make sense I am just not sure what.

Is it possible scum don’t have a PT?

Just spitballing ideas

Not sure what mechanically scum are doing.