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Post Post #4100 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:41 am

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In post 4097, Prism wrote:Wait, does that mean this was also just flavor and not anything mechanical? WHAT LMAO
In post 3291, penguin_alien wrote:
With minimal coaxing, Trailer is convinced to sniff an outstretched hand and hardly notices when his scarf is removed. He is then promptly distracted by a thirteen-lined ground squirrel and gives chase. Would that the non-metallized people could find their attention drawn away from their grisly task so easily...
Spoiler: What the fuck
In post 3221, Bell wrote:Btw, post morning mod should have an announcement.
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In post 3221, Bell wrote:Btw, post morning mod should have an announcement.
In post 3221, Bell wrote:Btw, post morning mod should have an announcement.
In post 3221, Bell wrote:Btw, post morning mod should have an announcement.
In post 3221, Bell wrote:Btw, post morning mod should have an announcement.
Admittedly I was flipping the fuck about because I was the thirteenth player on the player list and Bell kept insisting incorrectly I was scum.

Combined with Bell claiming something that I thought impossible/poor word choice

I think I went wtf overboard earlier and got stressed and I am sorry.

I still think certain things are bad explanations but not bastard.
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Post Post #4101 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:41 am

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Maybe but start of morning 4 is very different than after morning 3.

I mean whatever it was we're not finding out now/it's not important I guess but wack
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Post Post #4102 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:43 am

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In post 4101, Prism wrote:Maybe but start of morning 4 is very different than after morning 3.

I mean whatever it was we're not finding out now/it's not important I guess but wack
Yeah, it’s whack.

Kinda don’t wanna rehash that.

Who do you think is scum if Bork is?
Who do you think is scum if Bork isn’t?
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Post Post #4103 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:52 am

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In post 4102, MathBlade wrote:Who do you think is scum if Bork is?
Who do you think is scum if Bork isn’t?
I tried to take this somewhat seriously but the real answer is "I don't fuckin' know" lmao

Bork town -> In order scum to town like BM, notsci, you, Dunn, Pooky, Titus, Tammy? All 3 of notsci/MB/Dunn have good reason to be town, Pooky is more for paranoia of burning the bussing card than for anything tangible. This got me to think more on Titus, originally she was lower town and I had her as "pretty dartthrow and probably worth reevaluating given the weird D1 progression on me/Cakez" but now I feel like she's probably town for it. She used VCA as a reason to stop pushing me and to push more on Cakez, the explanation wasn't great but the scum motivation would be ??? super bizarre.

Bork scum is something I might have to come to terms with and I don't even know where to start for the partner but BM is probably still the vote.
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Post Post #4104 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:54 am

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Gaps to give a better idea of that sorting using space to get a better idea of where the gaps are

Bork town world Scum to Town

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Post Post #4105 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:58 am

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I might as well just throw the whole playerlist in rather than specify the worlds tbh, I haven't done any thinking at all to speculating the split

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Post Post #4106 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:58 am

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VOTE: bork
I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!
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Post Post #4107 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:00 am

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Interesting:

Why do you have me as likely scum despite pushing Cakez as scum for three days straight and on D1 saying I scumread Cakez and Mastina on d1 and was just picking one?

How does that get me on the same level as Not Science?
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Post Post #4108 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:02 am

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In post 4106, Tammy wrote:VOTE: bork
Tammy this vote seems useless as Bork should be poisoned by Spiffeh.

If you’re saying you think Bork is scum but no mechanic reason vote Bork again once but then vote someone who could be scum with Bork
If you think Bork is scum but can evade the poison or other mechanics shenanigans vote Bork Twice
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Post Post #4109 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:05 am

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Yeah Tammy we're not voting bork sorry lol, we just let him die since it's optimal even if he's town. Even numbers mean the poison is a free elimination.
In post 4107, MathBlade wrote:Interesting:

Why do you have me as likely scum despite pushing Cakez as scum for three days straight and on D1 saying I scumread Cakez and Mastina on d1 and was just picking one?

How does that get me on the same level as Not Science?
I literally have not read you for alignment or kept track of your pushes for weeks lmao

In general that was because I think/thought you were town and a lot of bork moving down is the realization that someone has to be scum
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Post Post #4110 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:07 am

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though I guess it's useful to know where she stands on him

I also forgot we were in the afternoon phase, might vote BM later but we'll see if I get the motivation to actually tryhard again at some point

I'm about to make a 3 hour drive so might not be around until Monday
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Post Post #4111 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:08 am

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btw we don't even have to wait for the PT, if at any point you have info that contradicts claims vote yourself then vote the person, dunno if that'd violate penguin's rules though
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Post Post #4112 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:15 am

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In post 3936, penguin_alien wrote:
Tammy may only post votes in the game thread during Day 4. She remains a valid vote target for both the Morning and Afternoon votes. She may not use Day-activated Artifacts. She has been given a PT to record her commentary in during Day 4, and that PT will be made public and locked at the end of Day 4.
It says here that Tammy may only post votes.
I see no reason she can’t vote in response to what we ask her or we come up with a code to help her communicate and we stick to it.
She could even vote for dead people or people not playing the game to form sentences.

Like if she wants to vote yes.
She could just VOTE: whatever she wants to say then follow it with an VOTE: unvote

Then all communication would be votes?

Or is that just me being too literal?

Might want to ask the mod Tammy.
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Post Post #4113 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:16 am

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VOTE: Tammy says something cool and awesome and amazing

VOTE: Unvote

Or is this just me being bad?
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Post Post #4114 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:26 am

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You're right, though I suspect Penguin might insert the qualifier "valid" for votes. How extensive our messaging system should be from there is probably going to be left up to us, in thatdivising workarounds/playing an extensive game of 20 Questions is sufficiently inhibiting that it's not worth cracking down on.
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Post Post #4115 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:28 am

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In post 4114, Prism wrote:You're right, though I suspect Penguin might insert the qualifier "valid" for votes. How extensive our messaging system should be from there is probably going to be left up to us, in thatdivising workarounds/playing an extensive game of 20 Questions is sufficiently inhibiting that it's not worth cracking down on.
I agree it’s not worth nitpicking.

If Tammy can do that she would likely do so in her next post.
And if not then I/we have a puzzle to solve so Tammy can play and keep interest.
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Post Post #4116 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:37 am

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Last shitpost before I drive

Tammy vote me if you're enjoying the vacation, drinking some nice wine, and figuratively laying out on the beach because you're stuck in the Midwest but that's okay

Vote Spiffeh if you hate the scumteam and you're stuck grading and Nacho is a gigantic loser who got nightkilled LMAO
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Post Post #4117 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:24 am

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In post 4085, MathBlade wrote: I do not think BM is scum but I think we have to elim him at some point.
yeah that's fair. I don't see much point dragging the day out though, and certainly don't advocate people waste time looking through a lens of "BM flips scum" when I'm flipping town. :lol:

if i'm honest, i don't think i'd think i was scum either - if I was scum with Cakez, I'm not sure belatedly moving to notscience when Cakez was already at -1 approaching deadline and highly likely to be elimmed, really makes sense? You could argue that's WIFOM, but large themes are pretty simplistic - people tend to just default to the most obvious thing, and being as conspicuous as that in what would have hypothetically been a high probability scum-elim is a pretty dumb move. But maybe y'all think I'm dumb, or more likely just don't care to spend too much time thinking logically about it. Both understandable! :lol:

Also, I'm not sure scum-BM ever fakeclaims miller, especially on Day 2 under no pressure. But hey ho - we're 150 pages deep, town in a good position, so I can understand town just wanting to pick off the low hanging fruit.
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Post Post #4118 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:25 am

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in a way, this has been my most enjoyable large theme game in ages - just super chilled and not getting too emotionally involved :)
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Post Post #4119 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:31 am

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This is going to sound kinda sad but I think Titus is scum I just can’t bring myself to vote her as I am her sister and know she is going through shit.

If someone does a wagon on her I would join
As Notty+Bork or Bork + Titus really does make the most sense.

I just feel it’s too easy so if I am wrong somewhere it seems Prism would be the scum set to go deep.
Prism never once freaked out about sending Trident to Bork yet scumreading Bork.

We have no accountability on if Bork has it.

Like I only mention this now because two masons have died so a third would likely not be speaking with anyone but it’s off.

So I think if there has to be scum in the town block it was a ploy from Mastina to get Prism townread.

I just hate my paranoia.
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Post Post #4120 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:32 am

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In post 4119, MathBlade wrote:This is going to sound kinda sad but I think Titus is scum I just can’t bring myself to vote her as I am her sister and know she is going through shit.

If someone does a wagon on her I would join
As Notty+Bork or Bork + Titus really does make the most sense.

I just feel it’s too easy so if I am wrong somewhere it seems Prism would be the scum set to go deep.
Prism never once freaked out about sending Trident to Bork yet scumreading Bork.

We have no accountability on if Bork has it.

Like I only mention this now because two masons have died so a third would likely not be speaking with anyone but it’s off.

So I think if there has to be scum in the town block it was a ploy from Mastina to get Prism townread.

I just hate my paranoia.
I am her brother and she is my sister

Bad me misgendering myself as I merged words.
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Post Post #4121 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:47 am

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what type of miller even are you

we dont exactly have a cop lol
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Post Post #4122 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:06 am

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i guess we must have a cop? or some cop artifacts? otherwise that's a bit of a lame handicap.
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Post Post #4123 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:21 am

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can you full claim ?

like why r u a miller?
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Post Post #4124 (ISO) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:10 am

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I don't know if this would help assauge your paranoia MathBlade but me going deep would 100% be improvisation. Everything about Day 1 would have been to accumulate mechanical powed/towncred then burn it in exchange for 2 or ideally 3 miselims.

High risk/high visibility plays Day 1 are like that and I have a very, very long record of wanting shutouts and preferring to be the first scum flipped even though it never happens.
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